All of your points were just "It's fake" and "there's no evidence" and "it's wrong." It's not about connecting the dots.
I'll ignore the ones you just say "it's fake," since you provide no proof they are. About the "no evidence" part then. No evidence of something doesn't mean it's fake. It means there's no evidence of something.
Next, about you saying it's morally wrong in places. Cool and awesome. As I've already stated, I don't care about that. That doesn't prove it's fake.
There was one particular thing that caught my eye.
If it's not a good moral guide or an accurate historical account, then all it is is fiction. And since it's fiction, it's made up. You're just not connecting the dots."
Learn what the word "fiction" means. Again, the Bible being immoral doesn't mean it's all fiction. The Bible being wrong in SOME facts doesn't mean it's all fiction. Besides, no evidence it happened doesn't mean it didn't happen.
Also, parts of the Bible are indeed tales. They're meant to teach a lesson. It's not just a history book.
"The Bible sometimes aims to give an historical chronicle of actual events that really occurred. At other times, it employs poetry, myth, or fiction, in order to convey truth according to one of these genres."
It includes false things purposefully, to teach. That doesn't mean the Bible is all fiction, and therefore made up.
I have a couple questions. Let's say I do a school project on World War II. I get a fact wrong and say that it ended in 1946 instead of 1945. Does that mean my whole project is fiction, and therefore made up?
At the end, I want to tell everyone how wrong the Nazis were. After all, it's part of my project. So I tell a story I made up about the Nazis to show their evil. It's not true, but it's something they would have done. It's meant to teach a lesson. But since I included fiction, is all my project fiction, and therefore made up?
If you answer these two obvious questions correctly, ask the same exact questions of the Bible.
Hint: The answers might be the exact same, and are just as obvious.
It's not about connecting the dots. It's about not squashing different things and putting them into one false statement.
You are saying in this post that it's made up. How can you not admit it to yourself? And before you post something saying you didn't say that, read your own post. Conveying truth is still fiction. The bible is not a history book. But if you make something up regardless of intent means it's fiction.
fic·tion
[ˈfikSH(ə)n]
NOUN
literature in the form of prose, especially short stories and novels, that describes imaginary events and people.
synonyms: novels · stories · (creative) writing · (prose) literature · lit
invention or fabrication as opposed to fact:
"he dismissed the allegation as absolute fiction"
synonyms: fabrication · invention · lies · fibs · untruth · falsehood · fantasy · nonsense
a belief or statement that is false, but that is often held to be true because it is expedient to do so:
"the notion of that country being a democracy is a polite fiction"
The second question's answer is yes it is fiction, you made up the story. Your project still has merit because it's something the nazis would have done, but that doesn't mean it's not maze up.
What defines "made up" to you? It sure seems like in order for anything to be made up, it'd have to be wrong about every single fact and everything it says would have to be impossible.
It's not supposed to be a 100% perfectly divinely inspired holy book. Parts of it are wrong, yes. That doesn't mean the Bible is all made up, which is what we're arguing about. So you finally agree with me that the Bible isn't made up?
I repeat: the Bible is made up. Just because there are some portions that may be accurate, like how Egyptians exist both in real life and in the Bible, that doesn't mean it's not fictional.
"It's not supposed to be a 100% perfectly divinely inspired holy book"
You're saying the Bible wasn't supposed to be divinely inspired? Some Christians may take offense to that.
Nice job ignoring what I say. Doesn't matter what Christians think. The argument is that you can't prove it's made up. Innacuracy in parts of it don't prove it's made up, it proves it's inaccurate in parts.
As for the last part, no, I'm saying it's not perfect in accuracy.
No wonder we're getting nowhere. I ignored that part because it was stupid. 100% innacurate means all the facts stated are wrong. That doesn't prove it's made up just for the heck of it.
I'm actually shocked. You literally don't know what "made up" means.
"I always thought that things that were inaccurate and fictional were made up."
Many fictional parts in it are meant to be in there, to teach a lesson in morality or whatever. I already stated that. There's just no more point in arguing about this.
If you not knowing such a simple definition caused this whole argument, I shouldn't be wasting more of my time.
Okay fine I'll reply. I didn't say it was ALL fiction. I pointed out that in order to be true, it'd have to uphold its own claims. It doesn't. Parts of it are wrong and made up, and yet it claims not to be. Simple as that.
"Let's see how far I can go pointing out the flaws of each book that prove how fake it is until I get bored and decide its not worth doing every single one."
You did indeed say it's all fiction, so that's a lie from you. Also, no it doesn't have to uphold its claims to be true. That's just simply wrong. If I state a fact and don't provide evidence for it, does that mean it's not true? No.
"Parts of it are wrong and made up, and yet it claims not to be. Simple as that."
I've talked about this my last comment, I won't talk about it again. Doesn't look like you're on the winning side so far.
So if I wrote something down full of absurd stories with contradictions and making bizzare claims like "if you eat olives without tomato sauce, the great tehedraton will smite your stomach" and to top it off I said what I wrote down is perfect and divinely inspired, you'd be willing to argue that no one can prove that what I wrote could just be made up?
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All of your points were just "It's fake" and "there's no evidence" and "it's wrong." It's not about connecting the dots.
I'll ignore the ones you just say "it's fake," since you provide no proof they are. About the "no evidence" part then. No evidence of something doesn't mean it's fake. It means there's no evidence of something.
Next, about you saying it's morally wrong in places. Cool and awesome. As I've already stated, I don't care about that. That doesn't prove it's fake.
There was one particular thing that caught my eye.
If it's not a good moral guide or an accurate historical account, then all it is is fiction. And since it's fiction, it's made up. You're just not connecting the dots."
Learn what the word "fiction" means. Again, the Bible being immoral doesn't mean it's all fiction. The Bible being wrong in SOME facts doesn't mean it's all fiction. Besides, no evidence it happened doesn't mean it didn't happen.
Also, parts of the Bible are indeed tales. They're meant to teach a lesson. It's not just a history book.
https://www.catholiceducation.org/en/religion-and-philosophy/apologetics/are-the-stories-in-the-bible-true.html
"The Bible sometimes aims to give an historical chronicle of actual events that really occurred. At other times, it employs poetry, myth, or fiction, in order to convey truth according to one of these genres."
It includes false things purposefully, to teach. That doesn't mean the Bible is all fiction, and therefore made up.
I have a couple questions. Let's say I do a school project on World War II. I get a fact wrong and say that it ended in 1946 instead of 1945. Does that mean my whole project is fiction, and therefore made up?
At the end, I want to tell everyone how wrong the Nazis were. After all, it's part of my project. So I tell a story I made up about the Nazis to show their evil. It's not true, but it's something they would have done. It's meant to teach a lesson. But since I included fiction, is all my project fiction, and therefore made up?
If you answer these two obvious questions correctly, ask the same exact questions of the Bible.
Hint: The answers might be the exact same, and are just as obvious.
It's not about connecting the dots. It's about not squashing different things and putting them into one false statement.
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You are saying in this post that it's made up. How can you not admit it to yourself? And before you post something saying you didn't say that, read your own post. Conveying truth is still fiction. The bible is not a history book. But if you make something up regardless of intent means it's fiction.
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Let's not get this started up again, maybe?
Not even my post.
No it's not. I've already explained why. I'm not arguing about this yet again.
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Ok. But the definition of made-up is
ADJECTIVE
1.wearing makeup:
"her immaculately made-up face"
2.invented; not true:
"a made-up story"
The stories in the bible are stolen from other religions. There is historical documents proving the alteration of the bible by the church.
fic·tion
[ˈfikSH(ə)n]
NOUN
literature in the form of prose, especially short stories and novels, that describes imaginary events and people.
synonyms: novels · stories · (creative) writing · (prose) literature · lit
invention or fabrication as opposed to fact:
"he dismissed the allegation as absolute fiction"
synonyms: fabrication · invention · lies · fibs · untruth · falsehood · fantasy · nonsense
a belief or statement that is false, but that is often held to be true because it is expedient to do so:
"the notion of that country being a democracy is a polite fiction"
The second question's answer is yes it is fiction, you made up the story. Your project still has merit because it's something the nazis would have done, but that doesn't mean it's not maze up.
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You got the wrong answer. The answer is that one story doesn't mean my whole project is made up.
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What defines "made up" to you? It sure seems like in order for anything to be made up, it'd have to be wrong about every single fact and everything it says would have to be impossible.
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Made up means made up. What you're arguing is that those authors are wrong in their facts, which instantly means the Bible is made up.
Innacurate facts doesn't equal made up.
That's your whole issue with this. You think:
Wrong facts = made up.
Made up is using your imagination. There is no possible way for you to prove that.
Oh and the first question is that no it's not made up. But your essay isn't supposed to be a 100% perfect divinely inspired holy book.
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It's not supposed to be a 100% perfectly divinely inspired holy book. Parts of it are wrong, yes. That doesn't mean the Bible is all made up, which is what we're arguing about. So you finally agree with me that the Bible isn't made up?
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I repeat: the Bible is made up. Just because there are some portions that may be accurate, like how Egyptians exist both in real life and in the Bible, that doesn't mean it's not fictional.
"It's not supposed to be a 100% perfectly divinely inspired holy book"
You're saying the Bible wasn't supposed to be divinely inspired? Some Christians may take offense to that.
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Nice job ignoring what I say. Doesn't matter what Christians think. The argument is that you can't prove it's made up. Innacuracy in parts of it don't prove it's made up, it proves it's inaccurate in parts.
As for the last part, no, I'm saying it's not perfect in accuracy.
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"Innacuracy in parts of it don't prove it's made up" so in order to be made up it would have to be 100% innaccurate?
"Nice job ignoring what I say" Speak for yourself.
"The argument is that you can't prove it's made up" I always thought that things that were inaccurate and fictional were made up.
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No wonder we're getting nowhere. I ignored that part because it was stupid. 100% innacurate means all the facts stated are wrong. That doesn't prove it's made up just for the heck of it.
I'm actually shocked. You literally don't know what "made up" means.
"I always thought that things that were inaccurate and fictional were made up."
Many fictional parts in it are meant to be in there, to teach a lesson in morality or whatever. I already stated that. There's just no more point in arguing about this.
If you not knowing such a simple definition caused this whole argument, I shouldn't be wasting more of my time.
Okay fine I'll reply. I didn't say it was ALL fiction. I pointed out that in order to be true, it'd have to uphold its own claims. It doesn't. Parts of it are wrong and made up, and yet it claims not to be. Simple as that.
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"Let's see how far I can go pointing out the flaws of each book that prove how fake it is until I get bored and decide its not worth doing every single one."
You did indeed say it's all fiction, so that's a lie from you. Also, no it doesn't have to uphold its claims to be true. That's just simply wrong. If I state a fact and don't provide evidence for it, does that mean it's not true? No.
"Parts of it are wrong and made up, and yet it claims not to be. Simple as that."
I've talked about this my last comment, I won't talk about it again. Doesn't look like you're on the winning side so far.
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You talked about it sure, but what you said was wrong, so I felt the need to emphasize that.
So if I wrote something down full of absurd stories with contradictions and making bizzare claims like "if you eat olives without tomato sauce, the great tehedraton will smite your stomach" and to top it off I said what I wrote down is perfect and divinely inspired, you'd be willing to argue that no one can prove that what I wrote could just be made up?