I do agree with the complimenting where no compliments should be given. It is a bit of a two sided issue in my opinion. Being honest and realistic is necessary. So no false compliments. (This however conflicts with a society that asks us to be polite and show respect to those who have not earned it, which is dishonest in the same way.) And yeah they should human up!(man up is sexist) But some people need the compliments to keep them going. When I fail, I get frustrated and will not give up till I succeed. It frustrates/disgusts me, but there are people out there that get very demotivated after repeated failures. (which isn't that strange) Then you've got the option to compliment/adjust the level to give them some confidence and they may end up at the desired level after smaller increments or create bad spirit towards the subject, which often leads to thinking they have/will fail without trying.
I think it goes 'wrong' before that. Tbh I don't think most people have got the spirit for it. Still, I wouldn't say it has gotten worse. Using anecdotal statistics comparing my generation to my students I would say it even improved. Plus the 'increased'(?) stress of modern life is probably something that takes away the weaker ones at an earlier age. I think having to deal with that stress at younger ages is worse for suicide rates(as in increase) than the occasional compliment. (Stress(ing) =/= exhausting)
I have no experience nor am I planning to gain that experience, because I would probably create a social defect with my Spartan methods. So I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with you there. Haven't read anything about it, so I take anecdotal evidence as it is.
And say those people commit suicide. Then, in light of a negative evaluation of their ethos, it would be a win for our species as long as they have not reproduced. I do not see a problem with a small percentage committing suicide for that reason, helps with overpopulation and modern natural selection.
Then the most fun part is again...statistics. UK and Netherlands both low in the suicide rates. Then teen 0-24 suicide rates are down comparing to previous years. Ages 48-68 are up in suicide rate. So it are actually the old generations who are committing suicide and the new generation of teens seems to commit less suicide.
And I do see merit it the old system. It is just that modern technology has decreased the value of it. For example you can ask me all about historical dates. I can probably find all the information and more on my phone in about 5s opposed to the person who spend years learning those dates and facts. (And tbh can't be trusted, because human memory is not exact.)
And since people don't have unlimited time, choices have to be made about how to spend that time. Then I would choose not learning the dates and facts and just how to use them. (Disclaimer: my memory is weak, I don't remember dates, names, what day it is, how old I am or what I ate last night. I can remember numbers, connections, algorithms stuff like that. So teaching me facts/data is about as effective as putting water into a sieve.)
**I'll try remove the previous one though I don't see the option on my phone. -- found it on the computer, hey are you the author Joybird?
And Joybird. I've seen you in a lot of topics. I like you! We always seem to disagree, which is nice:D
Typing on a phone with a Dutch dictionary is hell. **
You'll find I only post a topic after I have some sort of 'experience' which in this case was the suicide of a young man following an argument with his girlfriend :o( We are constantly told on the News that teenage suicides are on the increase.
For your info, I teach 'dyslexic' kids how to read - I hate that word and don't believe there's any child / adult who can't be taught. I also teach young people maths and english, but spend most time concentrating on my teenage son. He was labelled as 'severely dyslexic' and set to be a failure in exams. He can read well now and always gets As in exams.
However, I graduated with honours in Business Studies - so love the stock market, although I don't get much chance to follow it closely anymore.
Love your comments as it gives me food for thought. I really enjoy a good debate, too often I find myself in the company of shallow people with no opinions. I an not a lenient parent or teacher, but it seems to work for me and them.
Is it normal to think that we are creating 'weak' adults?
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I do agree with the complimenting where no compliments should be given. It is a bit of a two sided issue in my opinion. Being honest and realistic is necessary. So no false compliments. (This however conflicts with a society that asks us to be polite and show respect to those who have not earned it, which is dishonest in the same way.) And yeah they should human up!(man up is sexist) But some people need the compliments to keep them going. When I fail, I get frustrated and will not give up till I succeed. It frustrates/disgusts me, but there are people out there that get very demotivated after repeated failures. (which isn't that strange) Then you've got the option to compliment/adjust the level to give them some confidence and they may end up at the desired level after smaller increments or create bad spirit towards the subject, which often leads to thinking they have/will fail without trying.
I think it goes 'wrong' before that. Tbh I don't think most people have got the spirit for it. Still, I wouldn't say it has gotten worse. Using anecdotal statistics comparing my generation to my students I would say it even improved. Plus the 'increased'(?) stress of modern life is probably something that takes away the weaker ones at an earlier age. I think having to deal with that stress at younger ages is worse for suicide rates(as in increase) than the occasional compliment. (Stress(ing) =/= exhausting)
I have no experience nor am I planning to gain that experience, because I would probably create a social defect with my Spartan methods. So I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with you there. Haven't read anything about it, so I take anecdotal evidence as it is.
And say those people commit suicide. Then, in light of a negative evaluation of their ethos, it would be a win for our species as long as they have not reproduced. I do not see a problem with a small percentage committing suicide for that reason, helps with overpopulation and modern natural selection.
Then the most fun part is again...statistics. UK and Netherlands both low in the suicide rates. Then teen 0-24 suicide rates are down comparing to previous years. Ages 48-68 are up in suicide rate. So it are actually the old generations who are committing suicide and the new generation of teens seems to commit less suicide.
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And I do see merit it the old system. It is just that modern technology has decreased the value of it. For example you can ask me all about historical dates. I can probably find all the information and more on my phone in about 5s opposed to the person who spend years learning those dates and facts. (And tbh can't be trusted, because human memory is not exact.)
And since people don't have unlimited time, choices have to be made about how to spend that time. Then I would choose not learning the dates and facts and just how to use them. (Disclaimer: my memory is weak, I don't remember dates, names, what day it is, how old I am or what I ate last night. I can remember numbers, connections, algorithms stuff like that. So teaching me facts/data is about as effective as putting water into a sieve.)
**I'll try remove the previous one though I don't see the option on my phone. -- found it on the computer, hey are you the author Joybird?
And Joybird. I've seen you in a lot of topics. I like you! We always seem to disagree, which is nice:D
Typing on a phone with a Dutch dictionary is hell. **
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Yes! That's me!
You'll find I only post a topic after I have some sort of 'experience' which in this case was the suicide of a young man following an argument with his girlfriend :o( We are constantly told on the News that teenage suicides are on the increase.
For your info, I teach 'dyslexic' kids how to read - I hate that word and don't believe there's any child / adult who can't be taught. I also teach young people maths and english, but spend most time concentrating on my teenage son. He was labelled as 'severely dyslexic' and set to be a failure in exams. He can read well now and always gets As in exams.
However, I graduated with honours in Business Studies - so love the stock market, although I don't get much chance to follow it closely anymore.
Love your comments as it gives me food for thought. I really enjoy a good debate, too often I find myself in the company of shallow people with no opinions. I an not a lenient parent or teacher, but it seems to work for me and them.
:o)