"The Waffen-SS didn't go around killing civilians, they killed those who were a threat to the reich. In the Soviet Union, they attempted to take down a dictator, who was butchering people as if they were cattle, Hiroshima and Nagasaki were unprovoked attacks, and unless Hitler had done what he did, the whole of Europe would speak Russian today."
Doesn't make those things much better :P
The sheer self-delusion necessary to believe one's nation is the "police officer" of the world with the right to decide who lives, who dies, who rules, and who owns what. Decadence at it's best. The US did LOTS of thing in the past 30 years to utterly destroy their foreign reputation. I am not saying ALL those things weren't necessary or all of it was wrong...but it should at least be observed with a critical view, not mindless agree-ance.
Stuff like killing civilians tends to leave a lasting impression, not only on the familys and relatives of those killed, and that impression does not become better if the ones doing the deed are official armed forces of a nation instead of radical terrorists.
Such poor knowledge of history combined with being so opinionated is never a good thing.
The Waffen-SS killed millions of people, simply because they believed those people didn't deserve to live, not because they were a threat. Stalin butchered many people as well, but that was a much more complex story then what you think, you need to do a lot of reading before I can go into that subject with you (and I don't mean just the headlines in Wikipedia, and some comments made by teenagers). The Japanese refused to surrender under any circumstances Until those two bombs were dropped (also read about their war crimes).
Since you mentioned the Nazis, they got so much power only because the western nations wanted to avoid war. Saddam was a dictator drunk with power, who only looked out for his own welfare, no matter at what cost.
yes, you have poor knowledge of history, but let me help out:
The Waffen-SS killed plenty of people, because they had a pre-made opinion of them, didn't question it, and acted on that because of how they were told to view them.
The US Marines killed plenty of people, because they had a pre-made opinion of them, didn't question it, and acted on that because of how they were ordered to act.
Stalin butchered a huge percentage of his people to strenghten his own position and prepare for war...the no-step-back policy and penal battailons + human wave doctrine were all necessary steps to withstand the wehrmacht, however, needlessly many young people were butchered to win the race to berlin against the western allies.
The japanese OFFERED to surrender before the nuclear bombs, with the sole condition that their tenno, who they saw as direct descendent of the gods, was not to be harmed/put into jail. It was a very acceptable offer and no invasion of mainland japan would have been necessary. The dropping of the bombs was not to break morale(incidently, ONE bomb would have been enough for that) but basically weapon tests on live targets under combat conditions. And they were targetted on civilians.
As for Saddam, the US helped the Bahd come into power in the first place, and supported him with weaponry against the Iran. He looked out for his own welfare, but also for his people...the US embargo for selling oil after the first iraq war was kept standing even after he requested to trade directly for needed medication and food...which would have been for his people, not him. That was denied in an attempt to break public opinion against him.
I am rather opinionated and don't claim anything else, the only thing i request is that facts are CRITICALLY considered, not just believed what people are told. The winner writes history, always been that way. And if you think the US is such a "good" nation only caring about world freedom and liberty of the people, then you need to read up on propaganda. It's a nation drunk with power, only looking out for it's own welfare, no matter at what cost.
Is it normal to think that the Marines are terrorists?
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"The Waffen-SS didn't go around killing civilians, they killed those who were a threat to the reich. In the Soviet Union, they attempted to take down a dictator, who was butchering people as if they were cattle, Hiroshima and Nagasaki were unprovoked attacks, and unless Hitler had done what he did, the whole of Europe would speak Russian today."
Doesn't make those things much better :P
The sheer self-delusion necessary to believe one's nation is the "police officer" of the world with the right to decide who lives, who dies, who rules, and who owns what. Decadence at it's best. The US did LOTS of thing in the past 30 years to utterly destroy their foreign reputation. I am not saying ALL those things weren't necessary or all of it was wrong...but it should at least be observed with a critical view, not mindless agree-ance.
Stuff like killing civilians tends to leave a lasting impression, not only on the familys and relatives of those killed, and that impression does not become better if the ones doing the deed are official armed forces of a nation instead of radical terrorists.
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Such poor knowledge of history combined with being so opinionated is never a good thing.
The Waffen-SS killed millions of people, simply because they believed those people didn't deserve to live, not because they were a threat. Stalin butchered many people as well, but that was a much more complex story then what you think, you need to do a lot of reading before I can go into that subject with you (and I don't mean just the headlines in Wikipedia, and some comments made by teenagers). The Japanese refused to surrender under any circumstances Until those two bombs were dropped (also read about their war crimes).
Since you mentioned the Nazis, they got so much power only because the western nations wanted to avoid war. Saddam was a dictator drunk with power, who only looked out for his own welfare, no matter at what cost.
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yes, you have poor knowledge of history, but let me help out:
The Waffen-SS killed plenty of people, because they had a pre-made opinion of them, didn't question it, and acted on that because of how they were told to view them.
The US Marines killed plenty of people, because they had a pre-made opinion of them, didn't question it, and acted on that because of how they were ordered to act.
Stalin butchered a huge percentage of his people to strenghten his own position and prepare for war...the no-step-back policy and penal battailons + human wave doctrine were all necessary steps to withstand the wehrmacht, however, needlessly many young people were butchered to win the race to berlin against the western allies.
The japanese OFFERED to surrender before the nuclear bombs, with the sole condition that their tenno, who they saw as direct descendent of the gods, was not to be harmed/put into jail. It was a very acceptable offer and no invasion of mainland japan would have been necessary. The dropping of the bombs was not to break morale(incidently, ONE bomb would have been enough for that) but basically weapon tests on live targets under combat conditions. And they were targetted on civilians.
As for Saddam, the US helped the Bahd come into power in the first place, and supported him with weaponry against the Iran. He looked out for his own welfare, but also for his people...the US embargo for selling oil after the first iraq war was kept standing even after he requested to trade directly for needed medication and food...which would have been for his people, not him. That was denied in an attempt to break public opinion against him.
I am rather opinionated and don't claim anything else, the only thing i request is that facts are CRITICALLY considered, not just believed what people are told. The winner writes history, always been that way. And if you think the US is such a "good" nation only caring about world freedom and liberty of the people, then you need to read up on propaganda. It's a nation drunk with power, only looking out for it's own welfare, no matter at what cost.
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I like you..erm...your words lol. Tell it savagely!