Why should we have to leave the society that we built? Religion has done NOTHING and all of the pretty church buildings and the medical care that they have is because of the scientific discoveries of ATHEISTS!
While they were on their knees worshipping a non-existent entity we were building their society. God didn't build anything, we did. If anything we are the gods.
The majority of humans are religious. Therefore society is, by majority, religious. Society isn't buildings and science, by the way. Society is just people and the relations between them.
At the risk of repeating myself, as a minority who doesn't want the majority to believe what they believe, it's easier for the minority to form a new society than to force the majority to do so.
How is it an issue of belief? I KNOW that there is no god because science proves it.
And I know what society is and religious people are incapable of interacting with each other without killing each other. Atheists are peaceful and non-biased and religious people can't help but fight each other. Why should we leave the society that we built?
I come from a scientific background and I see very little evidence for God. So little, in fact, that I think there must be a scientific reason for why so many people do believe.
However, I also know that science is particularly good at pointing out when it is wrong (something I love it for). Even the building blocks of science are consistently proved to be wrong. Newtonian mechanics looked immutable until Einstein came along.
If you have a scientific proof that God cannot exist (and I mean a rigorous proof), then I would love to hear it because I've yet to see one.
As for society, I'll repeat myself again. It isn't infrastructure. Society is the relationships between people. It isn't "built". If the majority of the members of a society are religious, it is fair to say they have greater responsibility for a society existing than the minority do. If you want to crouch it in your terms, they built society to a greater extent simply because they are a majority. It is easier for a minority to start again elsewhere than to expel or change a majority.
You just said so yourself that there is little evidence for god. Any reasonable scientist knows that if there isn't any evidence then it does not exist!
Religious people can't be responsible for society if it were not for the scientific contributions of atheists then they probably wouldn't be alive! Their IQ scores is all of the scientific proof that you need as to why they believe in a God.
Little evidence is different than no evidence. Secondly, you need evidence for a proof, not a lack of evidence. Thirdly, there was no tangible evidence for the Higgs-Boson particle but scientists didn't say, "Oh well, that must mean it doesn't exist".
Finally, religion and science are not diametrically opposed nor are they unable to co-exist.
Wait, wait, wait. Atheists are peaceful? Do you have any idea how many rape threats the women of skepchick.org have been getting from atheists who disagree with them about feminist issues? Keep in mind that these are women who are also atheists and sceptics.
Most religious people are not violent. And all of them I know, including myself, are actually very peaceful people that don't want anymore than just to live as much as you do. I will admit there are some violent religous people, but violent people are everywhere,not just the religious. You can't clump everyone into one group. I disagree with the Westboro Baptist church just as much as the next sane person, and so would a lot of other Christians.
It doesn't matter whether it's an issue of belief or knowledge. You don't have the right to kick people out of a country because they're wrong about things sometimes.
A lot of the people who built modern civilisation were religious, so I'm not sure what you mean by "the society that we built". Also, nobody's asking you to leave.
Is it normal to think that religion should separate from society?
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The majority of humans are religious. It would be easier for the atheistic minority (including me) to create a new state.
In short, if you don't want to live in a country with religious people, I think it's your responsibility to do something about it, not theirs.
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Why should we have to leave the society that we built? Religion has done NOTHING and all of the pretty church buildings and the medical care that they have is because of the scientific discoveries of ATHEISTS!
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The majority of humans are religious. Therefore society is, by majority, religious. Society isn't buildings and science, by the way. Society is just people and the relations between them.
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How is it an issue of belief? I KNOW that there is no god because science proves it.
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I come from a scientific background and I see very little evidence for God. So little, in fact, that I think there must be a scientific reason for why so many people do believe.
However, I also know that science is particularly good at pointing out when it is wrong (something I love it for). Even the building blocks of science are consistently proved to be wrong. Newtonian mechanics looked immutable until Einstein came along.
If you have a scientific proof that God cannot exist (and I mean a rigorous proof), then I would love to hear it because I've yet to see one.
As for society, I'll repeat myself again. It isn't infrastructure. Society is the relationships between people. It isn't "built". If the majority of the members of a society are religious, it is fair to say they have greater responsibility for a society existing than the minority do. If you want to crouch it in your terms, they built society to a greater extent simply because they are a majority. It is easier for a minority to start again elsewhere than to expel or change a majority.
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You just said so yourself that there is little evidence for god. Any reasonable scientist knows that if there isn't any evidence then it does not exist!
Religious people can't be responsible for society if it were not for the scientific contributions of atheists then they probably wouldn't be alive! Their IQ scores is all of the scientific proof that you need as to why they believe in a God.
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Little evidence is different than no evidence. Secondly, you need evidence for a proof, not a lack of evidence. Thirdly, there was no tangible evidence for the Higgs-Boson particle but scientists didn't say, "Oh well, that must mean it doesn't exist".
Finally, religion and science are not diametrically opposed nor are they unable to co-exist.
Wait, wait, wait. Atheists are peaceful? Do you have any idea how many rape threats the women of skepchick.org have been getting from atheists who disagree with them about feminist issues? Keep in mind that these are women who are also atheists and sceptics.
Most religious people are not violent. And all of them I know, including myself, are actually very peaceful people that don't want anymore than just to live as much as you do. I will admit there are some violent religous people, but violent people are everywhere,not just the religious. You can't clump everyone into one group. I disagree with the Westboro Baptist church just as much as the next sane person, and so would a lot of other Christians.
It doesn't matter whether it's an issue of belief or knowledge. You don't have the right to kick people out of a country because they're wrong about things sometimes.
A lot of the people who built modern civilisation were religious, so I'm not sure what you mean by "the society that we built". Also, nobody's asking you to leave.