How do you have a child "maliciously?" A man can still sleep with a woman with very low risk of pregnancy. It's pretty unfair to say that if a woman gets pregnant it's her "fault." Also, it's not extortion, that refers to getting something (usually money) by force or threats of violence, not trying to trick a guy into knocking you up for support payments.
I do not deny that this happens, I've seen it happen, but I don't agree with the use of the word "malicious," and the implication that if this happens to a man that he's some kind of innocent victim, and should then have a say in whether that particular circumstance should lead to abortion.
Not ridiculous at all. Just don't have relations with someone you don't love. Regardless it's inappropriate and lecherous behavior for grown men to want to have sex with "girls". Real men go after equals, and that means women.
How about preparing for the worst and hoping for the best instead of attempting to play the victim card; it's unbecoming of an adult male.
Expecting people to only have sex with people they love is pretty outdated. And who gets to define what "love" is. What if you think you're in love with a man/woman, have relations with them, but as time passes you drift apart? Does that mean what you had wasn't love? And if it wasn't love, then does that mean the sex you had with that person, while morally sound before, is now wrong?
And as for the women/girls point, women can be just as conniving as girls. Just like men can be just as much of a prick as a boy.
Not even going to get into your comment below, other than to say that making a personal attack against Gora after no provocation apart from a slight jab at some of your feminist tendencies was a prime example of "spoiled child" behavior. And a tad spiteful. Not saying he couldn't have phrased himself better, but still.
If someone doesn't want to find themselves in position of having to deal with a crisis pregnancy and possibly an abortion or an unwanted child use protection and for males that means a condom.
My so called "attack" on Gora was more about semantics than whether or not anyone is conniving. Men don't have any business trying to have sex with girls and neither do women have any business trying to have sex with boys. Not everyone you disagree with is a femi-Nazi.
I've never claimed to be a feminist. Sure, I subscribe to certain feminist ideologies such as equality especially in the work place. I don't feel any obligation to have an all or nothing attitude with regard to the whole of feminist ideology.
The feminism of the 1960's was a reaction to the sexual revolution. Seeing as feminism asserts that women have rights over what happens to their own bodies then there is just as much liberation in saying no as there is in choosing to be sexually active. How is it any of your business whether or not women say yes or no to sex?
I really enjoy your posts about you cat as I am an animal lover myself. However, I can't help but to notice that your posts regarding love and sex tend to be of the self pitying, "woe is me" sort. I also note that you consistently make posts of an entitled nature with regard to beautiful women, love, sex and even pornography and
masturbation. I'm sorry that you're dissatisfied with this aspect of your life but having the mindset of an entitled, little, spoiled child will only further this victim mentality that traps you in your unhappiness.
Stop playing the victim and see if your life doesn't improve.
You digress. The premise is do men have a say in abortion and you've dismissed my point. With other words women are the sole guardians of sex and babies. Men have zero say.
A man has a say in deciding to get to know a woman's character before being intimate with her and making a conscious choice to use a latex condom(preferably with spermicidal lubricate) if he doesn't want to have to deal with a crisis pregnancy and possible unwanted child or an abortion.
I'm going to assume you wouldn't trust just anyone to hold your wallet, car keys or house keys so why would you be so casual and careless as to where you plant your seed? If it appears that women have sole control over reproduction it's because the development of an unborn child takes place inside a woman's body which is her domain and no one's property but her own. You have the same rights over your own body, you really do! Take responsibility for your actions, prepare and think with the head on your shoulders instead of the one in your pants and you won't have to worry about any of this!
Is it normal to think it's okay for men to take a stance on abortion?
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That's ridiculous. A man can consent with a girl to have sex and not want children so if she still has a child maliciously then it's her fault.
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How do you have a child "maliciously?" A man can still sleep with a woman with very low risk of pregnancy. It's pretty unfair to say that if a woman gets pregnant it's her "fault." Also, it's not extortion, that refers to getting something (usually money) by force or threats of violence, not trying to trick a guy into knocking you up for support payments.
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So you deny that there are women who do this?
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I do not deny that this happens, I've seen it happen, but I don't agree with the use of the word "malicious," and the implication that if this happens to a man that he's some kind of innocent victim, and should then have a say in whether that particular circumstance should lead to abortion.
Not ridiculous at all. Just don't have relations with someone you don't love. Regardless it's inappropriate and lecherous behavior for grown men to want to have sex with "girls". Real men go after equals, and that means women.
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Expecting people to only have sex with people they love is pretty outdated. And who gets to define what "love" is. What if you think you're in love with a man/woman, have relations with them, but as time passes you drift apart? Does that mean what you had wasn't love? And if it wasn't love, then does that mean the sex you had with that person, while morally sound before, is now wrong?
And as for the women/girls point, women can be just as conniving as girls. Just like men can be just as much of a prick as a boy.
Not even going to get into your comment below, other than to say that making a personal attack against Gora after no provocation apart from a slight jab at some of your feminist tendencies was a prime example of "spoiled child" behavior. And a tad spiteful. Not saying he couldn't have phrased himself better, but still.
Think about what I've said. The more you know.
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If someone doesn't want to find themselves in position of having to deal with a crisis pregnancy and possibly an abortion or an unwanted child use protection and for males that means a condom.
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Females also have ways of using protection. It isn't all the man's responsibility.
And you aren't very clear what your definition for "girls" and "boys" is.
Define girl? I say girl for anyone under 30.
For a feminist I find it dubious to think love and sex should always go hand in hand. What happened to so called liberation?
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I've never claimed to be a feminist. Sure, I subscribe to certain feminist ideologies such as equality especially in the work place. I don't feel any obligation to have an all or nothing attitude with regard to the whole of feminist ideology.
The feminism of the 1960's was a reaction to the sexual revolution. Seeing as feminism asserts that women have rights over what happens to their own bodies then there is just as much liberation in saying no as there is in choosing to be sexually active. How is it any of your business whether or not women say yes or no to sex?
I really enjoy your posts about you cat as I am an animal lover myself. However, I can't help but to notice that your posts regarding love and sex tend to be of the self pitying, "woe is me" sort. I also note that you consistently make posts of an entitled nature with regard to beautiful women, love, sex and even pornography and
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You digress. The premise is do men have a say in abortion and you've dismissed my point. With other words women are the sole guardians of sex and babies. Men have zero say.
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A man has a say in deciding to get to know a woman's character before being intimate with her and making a conscious choice to use a latex condom(preferably with spermicidal lubricate) if he doesn't want to have to deal with a crisis pregnancy and possible unwanted child or an abortion.
I'm going to assume you wouldn't trust just anyone to hold your wallet, car keys or house keys so why would you be so casual and careless as to where you plant your seed? If it appears that women have sole control over reproduction it's because the development of an unborn child takes place inside a woman's body which is her domain and no one's property but her own. You have the same rights over your own body, you really do! Take responsibility for your actions, prepare and think with the head on your shoulders instead of the one in your pants and you won't have to worry about any of this!