Some interesting things some people don't know about psychopaths that i found....
"The psychopath has the image of a cold, heartless, inhuman being. However they more often come across as arrogant, self-assured, opinionated, domineering, and cocky."
"psychopaths are not altruistic and do not really care about friendships or ties. Some can even be very fond of animals (contrary to the common viewpoint)"
The macdonald triad has actually been found to have very little connection to psychopathy, it's a myth.
Any point one wants to make can easily be backed up by "proof" found on the internet. What a great tool it is.
Fact is, almost every infamous serial killer tourtured helpless animals for pleasure in their youth. It's one of the early tell tail signs of sociopathic behavior. Fact.
Except that the statements i used came from Robert Hare, the man who's checklist is used for the diagnosis of psychopathy. So it's your thoughts on the subject versus the man who defines it, hmmmmmmm i wonder who is right lol.
Fact is, the MOST infamous serial killer in history had a dog that he took good care of, and the second didn't hurt them either. I could list about 20 known names that didn't. Some do kill animals yes, but many don't. The animal killing, high intelligence, good looking, want to get caught, and many other notions about them are uneven in frequency if you study the cases, profilers have come out and said the same thing. Just as most serial killers didn't start fires or wet their beds past age 12, it applies to non serial killers around the world just as often, so it's "facts wise" a myth.
Not always true. Some serial killers are very kind to animals and many take this as the first step. The OP is saying he wants to torture something weaker. So what not to say they will not one start murdering children? After that women and men and one day will end up on the news.
What i'm saying is that most people that torture animals don't become serial killers. There are several hundred convicted serial killers in the US but the amount of people who torture animals would be ten times that. The truth is (and many experts agree) that there is no one "blueprint" for creating a serial killer, many grew up in abusive homes, but quite a few did not. Ted Bundy grew up in a fairly stable and well off family, didn't torture animals, and is now the most infamous serial killer in modern history. Jeffrey Dahmer was only interested in animals that were already dead as a kid, even with people he would kill them while they were knocked out, because he didn't enjoy killing he just wanted the bodies. The link between animal cruelty and serial killing is trivial as it's the sign of a sadist not a serial killer. Most sadists don't become serial killers, serial killers are very rare and all so different from each other that it's near impossible to answer "why" and "how" they became that way, only they can say but they will seldom tell the truth. Millions of animal abusers in the world, far, far less serial killers.
It's the sign of a sadist, so it's more of a personality disorder. So it doesn't really affect them mentally at all, they think clearly but are not great human beings. And it's fixed too, an animal torturer is going to be sadistic life long.
The word sadism comes from this man, and those were his last words.
Marquis de Sade -
"kill me again, or take me as i am, for i shall never change"
"Fact is, almost every infamous serial killer tourtured helpless animals"
No, several did and far more did not. What you're citing is no more than the typical pop culture myths about serial killers, i actually know what i'm talking about through education. Animal torture is a trademark of sadists not serial killers, most sadists don't become serial killers, and many serial killers are not sadists. Serial killers by comparison are very rare indeed.
Where did you got this information: " Some can be very fond of animals (contraty to the common viewpoint)" ???????? please do answer. And, are you a specialist?
Is it normal to take pleasure in torturing weak animals?
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Some interesting things some people don't know about psychopaths that i found....
"The psychopath has the image of a cold, heartless, inhuman being. However they more often come across as arrogant, self-assured, opinionated, domineering, and cocky."
"psychopaths are not altruistic and do not really care about friendships or ties. Some can even be very fond of animals (contrary to the common viewpoint)"
The macdonald triad has actually been found to have very little connection to psychopathy, it's a myth.
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Any point one wants to make can easily be backed up by "proof" found on the internet. What a great tool it is.
Fact is, almost every infamous serial killer tourtured helpless animals for pleasure in their youth. It's one of the early tell tail signs of sociopathic behavior. Fact.
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well most discussions and fights on this website are asking for proof.
Except that the statements i used came from Robert Hare, the man who's checklist is used for the diagnosis of psychopathy. So it's your thoughts on the subject versus the man who defines it, hmmmmmmm i wonder who is right lol.
Fact is, the MOST infamous serial killer in history had a dog that he took good care of, and the second didn't hurt them either. I could list about 20 known names that didn't. Some do kill animals yes, but many don't. The animal killing, high intelligence, good looking, want to get caught, and many other notions about them are uneven in frequency if you study the cases, profilers have come out and said the same thing. Just as most serial killers didn't start fires or wet their beds past age 12, it applies to non serial killers around the world just as often, so it's "facts wise" a myth.
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Not always true. Some serial killers are very kind to animals and many take this as the first step. The OP is saying he wants to torture something weaker. So what not to say they will not one start murdering children? After that women and men and one day will end up on the news.
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What i'm saying is that most people that torture animals don't become serial killers. There are several hundred convicted serial killers in the US but the amount of people who torture animals would be ten times that. The truth is (and many experts agree) that there is no one "blueprint" for creating a serial killer, many grew up in abusive homes, but quite a few did not. Ted Bundy grew up in a fairly stable and well off family, didn't torture animals, and is now the most infamous serial killer in modern history. Jeffrey Dahmer was only interested in animals that were already dead as a kid, even with people he would kill them while they were knocked out, because he didn't enjoy killing he just wanted the bodies. The link between animal cruelty and serial killing is trivial as it's the sign of a sadist not a serial killer. Most sadists don't become serial killers, serial killers are very rare and all so different from each other that it's near impossible to answer "why" and "how" they became that way, only they can say but they will seldom tell the truth. Millions of animal abusers in the world, far, far less serial killers.
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Regardless of why it is still a sign of mental issues.
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It's the sign of a sadist, so it's more of a personality disorder. So it doesn't really affect them mentally at all, they think clearly but are not great human beings. And it's fixed too, an animal torturer is going to be sadistic life long.
The word sadism comes from this man, and those were his last words.
Marquis de Sade -
"kill me again, or take me as i am, for i shall never change"
"Fact is, almost every infamous serial killer tourtured helpless animals"
No, several did and far more did not. What you're citing is no more than the typical pop culture myths about serial killers, i actually know what i'm talking about through education. Animal torture is a trademark of sadists not serial killers, most sadists don't become serial killers, and many serial killers are not sadists. Serial killers by comparison are very rare indeed.
Ted Bundy was very fond of dogs for instance.
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Papers by profilers Robert Ressler, John Douglas, Pat Brown and the forensic psychiatrist Helen Morrison.