Is it normal to take hormones to look like the opposite gender?

Hi, I have always wanted to be a girl, and puberty is making me look like a guy, so recently I started taking girl hormones I ordered on internet to make myself look more like a girl. I also got something to block my testosterone. Is it normal?

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  • Ummitsstillme

    You're too young to do stuff like that. You should see a psychologist and talk about your issues before you decide to do physical changes.

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    • curious-bunny

      Trust me she is not. This is something that haunts us our whole lives. We know what's up

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  • JellyBeanBandit

    That stuff needs to be prescribed by a doctor, go to the doctor and tell him about how you feel and get it done properly.

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    • allofthenamesaretaken

      I can't, my parents will find out and they would hate me I am pretty sure. I think me being/ acting like a girl, or "sissy" is my dads worst nightmare

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      • RoseIsabella

        That's your dad's problem, not your problem.

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  • IrishPotato

    You're way too young to even be capable of making such a decision.

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    • curious-bunny

      Trust me she is not. This is something that haunts us our whole lives. We know what's up

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      • leggs91200

        Yeah but these CIS people who seem to know better than we do. After all, some doctor or preacher explained it.

        You know Bunny, I have no problems with people disagreeing about how us TG live our lives. The problem comes when some CIS people try to tell us (or anyone) how to live.

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        • IrishPotato

          You know, I never got why you people always made cis sound like it's a bad thing.

          Yes I was born male.
          Yes I am aware that I am male.
          And?

          It's like I'm automatically less of a person because I'm mentally stable enough to identify myself as what I'm biologically proven to be.

          Maybe we'd be telling you less how to live if you wouldn't be making up things as you go like a freeforall game of life, that's not how the world works and no-one will ever accept any of you if you're all willynilly about this so called infinite spectrum of genders.

          That's not how things work. That's not how anyone will be accepted. No-one sensible will go along with something if there isn't a concrete list of it. No-one will accept any of you if you think you can keep up these "making up genders as we go" shenanigans. It's unacceptable.

          On top of that you refuse to acknowledge being mentally ill and decide that instead of accepting ones traits as your individuality, you yourself assign it to a chosen gender. You yourself are extremely sexist by saying you're a female when you're a man, while in reality you're just a person. The truth of it is is that you're the one assigning behaviour and personality traits to genders, no-one else is.

          Aaaaanyway, getting off topic here. OP is a child. If you want to encourage changing ones life when the person in question is barely capable of getting their homework done, then I can't exactly be accepting of anything you say.

          You're encouraging changing ones life forever, at the age one is simply incapable of making such a decision. This has nothing to do with me being cis or transphobic or whatever victim card you want to stamp onto OP, this is simply because the OP is a CHILD. I'm appalled by how you even got to your conclusion in the first place. Who do you think you are?

          Seriously. You don't go telling toddlers to inject hormones. You don't go telling babies to refuse vaccinations (although some retarded parents completely refuse to get them for their child) and you don't go telling a 12 year old to chop their dicks off because of a feeling they don't even understand.

          God forbid you'd actually look at what I said instead of resort to being pathetic and pulling out the victim card. You're no victim and neither is OP. All OP is is a child who has to wait to even be able to make life altering decisions until his or her brain is fully developed, and all you are is an adult who doesn't think about what they're saying.

          I'm livid mate. Livid.

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          • allofthenamesaretaken

            CIS isn't a slur, CIS is just someone who doesn't identify as trans, of course CIS people won't understand where we are coming from, because they aren't trans.. you can try to understand us though, and listen to what we are saying. Also behavior is not what makes someone female/male. I believe I am female because I was suppose to be born with a vagina but somehow ended up with a penis - I should have the physical traits of the female sex. This has nothing to do with stereotypes or behaviors. I'm not a very "feminine" person either... I just believe I was suppose to be female. I view this as more of a birth defect than a mental disorder.... has nothing to do with mental stability.

            I appreciate your view and understand maybe I am too young, but at what age did you know who you were as a person? Did you have any struggles with finding yourself/identity? I am curious. The problem here is that testosterone causes irreversible damage to my bone structures... so catching this thing early is the best hope for me to have a happy life, I could be wrong I suppose, but I really 99.999999% think I am, I couldn't ever imagine growing old as a man.. the thought terrifies me. Thinking of growing up becoming a mature woman is something that makes me feel warm inside, and comforting. I also think society tends to treat women differently, and I do like to be treated this way, with kind of gentleness. Is it so bad to want to be happier?

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            • curious-bunny

              This, your reply was beautiful. Only thing I would add is that guy needs sone better education but im definitly more spiteful than you hahq, anyways you definitly have q way with words many applauses

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          • leggs91200

            Usually I call CIS people "straights" or "breeders" when needing differentiate if they are LGBT or not. I do not associate with anyone who is not LGBT because their egos are too fragile to handle anything like trans or gay.
            Sometimes I call them "insecure white straight males".
            Sometimes people call me a "man" but I won't call them "men" because "men" they are not. They are insecure "males". Men have no problems with LGBT.

            The straights such as yourself who are pissed off for a few reasons like no one is celebrating your vanilla existence.
            Transgender people used to have to hide deeply and just could not live life as they wanted unless they could live as their chosen gender undetected (few of us can). So now we are out and about whether we pass or not. The straights used to expose us when they could and now you all are mad cause we refuse to hide in the closet.

            I am not sure what you even know about raising kids but I bet the moment the pediatrician diagnoses "autism" as the often do, you will be first in line for meds. I do not put my nose in how anyone else raises their kids. It isn't my place.

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            • IrishPotato

              Yeah I can't take this nonsense seriously. Sorry man.

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  • jethro

    Bruce Jenner... Is this you again?

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  • JD777

    Hormone replacement therapy is a tricky science as the biologics are not fully understood and people react differently to different hormones, regimens and doses. Either way, taking anything available online without a doc involved is taking a huge chance with your health. Some hormones have permanent effect, so don't toy around with this process.

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  • fireinthetacobell

    So youre like 12? fake post.

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    • allofthenamesaretaken

      what? I'm almost 18 dude

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      • fireinthetacobell

        you're having puberty at 18?

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        • allofthenamesaretaken

          I started when I was like 14-15 and as far as I know the average male develops until the age of 26, so yes I am still having "puberty" , I mostly mean as testosterone develops my body - which as I have said will happen until I am 26.

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  • nikkiclaire

    Dogs live 10 to 16 years. They do whatever they want. Freedom

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    • allofthenamesaretaken

      I'm not sure I understand, are trying to say this will make me die early by doing this? I honestly not sure I could live with myself if I looked like a guy, so I'd probably have an even short life : /

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      • nikkiclaire

        No I'm saying dogs just go from one thing to make them happy to another. Do that

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        • allofthenamesaretaken

          =)

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    • Ellenna

      They don't try and change gender though

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  • Ellenna

    Nobody knows the longterm effects of people taking hormones of the opposite gender. Don't mess around with your health.

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    • leggs91200

      That is true BUT there is a lot of stuff out there that they do not know the long term effects of yet it gets passed out like candy.
      Most notably vape fluids.

      I kind of wonder sometimes myself -
      With these younger transgender who have been on HRT since before puberty, they look good now, but what will happen when they are around even MY age (40 something)?

      I guess it is easy when one is young to think, "I do not care about later" but I look BACK at my youth and think, "I am glad i didn't fuck around with (insert something "fun" like drugs here)

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      • Ellenna

        I agree about vaping: too new to know the long term effects and I had an issue at the weekend with a woman blowing vape vapor in my face. When I objected that it was affecting my lungs (I have emphysema) she said, "It's only water". My response was yeah and glycerine and who knows what else, if it were only water vapor it wouldn't have affected my lungs so badly.

        Nobody knows how longterm use of sex hormones will affect people and I'd be very surprised if the pharmaceutical companies give a stuff about that. Ditto the shrinks who classify transgenderism as body disphoria (ie a mental issue) but then recommend artificial hormones and surgery.

        I definitely don't believe trans people should be discriminated against, but I wonder how many have had it pointed out to them that they when they say they're an A trapped in a B body, they can't possibly know that because they've never been an A: what they actually mean is that they have feelings and desires (usually very stereotyped at that) which they believe only belong to the other gender.

        There are a lot of people and organizations making a lot of money out of this and the long term repurcussions worry me a lot.

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        • curious-bunny

          That's why there are transsexuals and transgender, also transvestites but they are just weird. A transsexual it's physical and mental a transgender it's mental its hard to understand i know but when yoi have a womans mind and everyone tests you as a guy it is very upsetting and well give versa we can't forget the ftms

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          • Ellenna

            There is no such thing as "a woman's mind"! Have you never heard of neuro plasticity? If children grow up in a society which teaches that certain emotions and behaviors are gender linked and they have feelings commonly attributed to another gender, some will believe they are "trapped in the wrong body".

            The solution may well not be lifetime hormone therapy and irreversible surgery but changing attitudes to gender stereotypes. Of course, that wouldn't be as profitable for shrinks and pharmaceutical companies and surgeons, would it?

            As for transvestism, I don't understand why a man would want to go to all that trouble to wear makeup and uncomfortable women's clothing, but it's not weird, only a harmless fetish.

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            • allofthenamesaretaken

              I just want to say its not gender stereotypes that make me want to change my gender... It's the fact I look in the mirror and hate what I see, I am disgusted with myself and feel that I look gross. I also hate my genitals, when I was 4 years old I told my mom I hated my penis and wish I had a vagina like her. Those feelings stayed with me.. It's really more physical than anything. I am not the stereotypical female personality... I would be considered a tom-boy I'd say. I don't believe its my interests that make me female at all, its just I strong feeling of wrongness with my current physical appearance. As for wearing female clothes, I just like to look cute and I think female clothes are cute vs mens clothes..

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            • curious-bunny

              Wow you are ignorant, just gonna skip most of this as frankly i am exhausted and an in desperate need of rest and food however on clothing that's all preference. To me men's clothing is horribly unconfertable whilew women's fits like a glove as they say. For the rest of that yea you are ignorant and in need of a proper education.

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            • leggs91200

              there is such a thing as a "woman's mind".
              Two mental things it takes to be a woman are -

              1) Constant ailing.
              2) Constant drama.

              I present as a woman in day to day life (whatever label i am, I do not care) but I do not ail nor seek drama 24/7 like most women.

              About the "transvestite" label - I think that is mainly hairy men who put on lingerie, whack off, and are done for the moment.

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        • leggs91200

          Not nearly as much as the quacks who are making probably 100 times the killing because people think they are depressed.

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          • Ellenna

            People who "think" they are depressed almost certainly ARE depressed, although I concede some people over react to normal human sadness.

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      • curious-bunny

        I envy those little ones. Look the hormones mess you up. Esoeci ally aftrr puberty tgey do. Thet are dangerous especislly the blockers at least for us m2fs(I'm uneducated on f2m hrt) so till we get our nuts snipped we take blockers eich are very bad for you. Not to mention the fact of going through a second puberty.. anyways those younglings who stsrt get are quite fortunate yo start at suvh a age cause there body doesn't develop sex charaistics of there birth sex. Yes they are on blockers and hormones but they also get tgere operations done at a muvh younger age. It's like learning a new language the earlier it's done the better and easier it is.

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        • Ellenna

          So you're in favour of children young enough for you to call them "little ones" being given artificial hormones when nobody knows what the longterm effects will be?

          I see that as a form of child abuse, similar to the now (I hope) abandoned concept of giving children growth hormones to make them grow taller.

          How about a "new language" which encourages everyone to feel whatever they feel regardless of whether those feelings are labelled male or female?

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          • curious-bunny

            I call everyone under my age little ones and young ones. I'm just an ass. But we do know the long term affect. It's case dependant but the results are in your blood. You'd have to do your own research as in yo tired to bother explaining as for the last segment I honestly am not catching what you are saying if you can please explain id be happy to come up with a retort for you

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  • nikkiclaire

    If you want to be a girl but you were born a man. No it's not natural. But you live once. If you are lucky for only 80 years. So be happy.

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  • ThirdTesticle

    Being transgender is not abnormal, but you really need to have a doctor manage things like hormones. And you need to see a doctor asap about this. You could really mess up your body self medicating like that.

    For one, you have no idea what's in the hormones that you are taking. So, you're putting yourself at risk in that regard. Plus, you don't have any medical guidance as for how much and what to take.

    Thus, you could very well be throwing your hormonal system out of whack in a way that results in health problems. Because those hormones are responsible for more than just sex characteristics.

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  • curious-bunny

    Wich pills are you taking and at what dosage? Herbal doesn't really work avoid those. I've been self medicating for almost 2 years now, I'm not saying it's smart orbs are but its better then doing nothing or waiting on the full shit process. Anyways on this matter in quite educated, I highly reccomend spironocalton and oestrsdial. It works great, if you take Spiro buy some calcium pills o f you don't drink slot pof milk. It will destroy your bones otherwise. Other dangerous side effects but it is what docs reccomend most. It's pro con

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    • allofthenamesaretaken

      I'm taking 8 mg of estradiol Intramuscularly every 2 weeks, and 200mg of spirolactonone every day.

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      • curious-bunny

        Oh dwmn you are on a lowrr dosage than me, I take 4 mg of estradiol daily 2 everu 12 hours and 200mg of spironoclotone daily. That Spiro is a ass kicker haha

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    • Ellenna

      Doctors often recommend and prescribe drugs which have dangerous side effects: it's bad enough when these are prescribed for adults who can make an informed decision but in my opinion to give these to children and adolescents is a form of child abuse.

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      • curious-bunny

        Besides what's more cruel you tell me giving a child q medicine that will help them significantly and might cause sone small problems down the road kinda exactly like a flue shot or making them go through puberty and tgere entire childhood forced to live a lie causing irreversible mental, physical and hormonal damage to the poor thing. My parents chose option b yet still made me get flue shots. As you can imagine I'm no where near as happy as i could been and I have avsoloutly no love or respect for my parents. If it wasn't for the fact of my voice iver the phone, and my Adams apple you'd have no idea I have a penis between my legs, unless you are very very familar with human bone structure of course. Now much of that would have been avoided if my parents actually cared about my well being. That doesn't even include my mental health. Forcing someone to live the wrong gender is worse than a lifetime of being bullied and beat up if you ask me. But thats just this girls opinion.

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      • curious-bunny

        In a society that now thinks spankings are child abuse I stopped paying attention to that argument in general. However that's not quite how it works, there's a carefully arranged proccess that tjose of us that are trans or belive we are trans go through before any such medicines ever get near our blood. No child is being abused unless it's one being raised to be a prostitute then let's be honest they got bigger problems

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