Nothing's wrong with anything, because right and wrong don't exist. What happens is that people value different things and usually try to convince others to share their beliefs. I personally don't value hedonism and think it's quite shallow and pointless. If you value hedonism I won't try to murder you, but I'll try to make you see things my way.
your opinion has nothing to do with the fact that humans enjoy the pleasure they feel during sex, making this normal for any human. If you personally don't feel pleasure from sex that's another thing but the norm is sex = feels good = normal.
No, I'm not talking about me not enjoying sex. It's common, very common, for people to want sex, but I sincerely believe it's not normal. And doing drugs = feels good = normal?
WHY would it not be normal? humans need sex to reproduce, enjoying sex counteracts the terrible childbirth, most people who genuinely DON'T enjoy sex either have a medical condition or are doing it VERY wrong (I do accept there is a major difference between "don't feel like sex" and "I do not find sex pleasurable in the slightest")
I can see no reason why you would think humans enjoying sex isn't normal.
You "truly believe that we're capable of not having sex at all, or at least having sex based on feelings and not on hedonism" which has nothing to do with the normality of it, humans still need sex to reproduce because IVF is extremely expensive and selective.
It may be chemically enjoyable, but I don't think it's intellectually/rationally enjoyable. Take all the people who are into BDSM/domination: that's proof your mind doesn't work as it should when it comes to sex. That's not normal.
The only half-normal reasons to have sex would be if you're simple-minded enough to believe it's an expression of love or if you want to have kids. Hopefully, however, IVF will one day be accessible enough to free us from the latter. And either way I believe it's too stupid to be considered normal to want to have biological kids nowadays instead of adopting.
So once again it's you OPINION. All sorts of people are into all sorts of kinks and fetishes, that doesn't make enjoying sex any less normal.
I hope IVF will be more widespread one day too, and I agree we should adopt but that doesn't mean that sex, and enjoying sex, isn't normal. I don't think there will ever be a time when enjoying sex isn't seen as normal, because sex will always be a huge part of human's lives. It's in our instincts to have sex and we enjoy sex because of biological reasons (that someone with a degree in biology could explain). It's not like we RANDOMLY enjoy sex for no scientific reason, what you're saying is the equivelant of "well we can survive on those hospital drips, so eating isn't normal."
Is it normal to like sex all the time?
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Really? Because Humans are one of the only species that have sex for pleasure rather than just instinct...
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I'm aware, but I truly believe that we're capable of not having sex at all, or at least having sex based on feelings and not on hedonism.
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What's wrong with hedonism? Is it normal to avoid pleasure and seek pain?
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Nothing's wrong with anything, because right and wrong don't exist. What happens is that people value different things and usually try to convince others to share their beliefs. I personally don't value hedonism and think it's quite shallow and pointless. If you value hedonism I won't try to murder you, but I'll try to make you see things my way.
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Life itself is pointless so one might as well try to maximise pleasure and minimise pain. It's also a value judgement to say it's shallow.
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That's what you think, because you think pain is bad and pleasure is good. Okay.
Yes, it is a value judgement.
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Animals avoid pain too. Helps surviving.
your opinion has nothing to do with the fact that humans enjoy the pleasure they feel during sex, making this normal for any human. If you personally don't feel pleasure from sex that's another thing but the norm is sex = feels good = normal.
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No, I'm not talking about me not enjoying sex. It's common, very common, for people to want sex, but I sincerely believe it's not normal. And doing drugs = feels good = normal?
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WHY would it not be normal? humans need sex to reproduce, enjoying sex counteracts the terrible childbirth, most people who genuinely DON'T enjoy sex either have a medical condition or are doing it VERY wrong (I do accept there is a major difference between "don't feel like sex" and "I do not find sex pleasurable in the slightest")
I can see no reason why you would think humans enjoying sex isn't normal.
You "truly believe that we're capable of not having sex at all, or at least having sex based on feelings and not on hedonism" which has nothing to do with the normality of it, humans still need sex to reproduce because IVF is extremely expensive and selective.
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It may be chemically enjoyable, but I don't think it's intellectually/rationally enjoyable. Take all the people who are into BDSM/domination: that's proof your mind doesn't work as it should when it comes to sex. That's not normal.
The only half-normal reasons to have sex would be if you're simple-minded enough to believe it's an expression of love or if you want to have kids. Hopefully, however, IVF will one day be accessible enough to free us from the latter. And either way I believe it's too stupid to be considered normal to want to have biological kids nowadays instead of adopting.
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So once again it's you OPINION. All sorts of people are into all sorts of kinks and fetishes, that doesn't make enjoying sex any less normal.
I hope IVF will be more widespread one day too, and I agree we should adopt but that doesn't mean that sex, and enjoying sex, isn't normal. I don't think there will ever be a time when enjoying sex isn't seen as normal, because sex will always be a huge part of human's lives. It's in our instincts to have sex and we enjoy sex because of biological reasons (that someone with a degree in biology could explain). It's not like we RANDOMLY enjoy sex for no scientific reason, what you're saying is the equivelant of "well we can survive on those hospital drips, so eating isn't normal."