Going to be honest, and no offense intended, but I stopped reading at the first paragraph. I'm just too ill to put enough effort in to reading and responding to this, as I can't say I care enough about putting the effort in as much as I can see it going to need if it progresses any further
It's not a new subject for me to be involved in, as I have myself been involved and talked to people with very same views on the subject as yourself, so I don't exactly feel the motivation to engage in the topic again.
Unfortunately, my curiosity has gotten the best of me, and I have seen little nips of your response, and again, no offense intended, but I think it is filled with too many contradictions. Such as, "If you mean justification by making it right, you are wrong" and "Give a reason to justify it, then yes". That mixed with what I said and how you are justifying it by your own idea of justification, it just seems too contradicting.
Same goes for the "I am indifferent towards their feelings", but you enjoy the conclusion that makes them show emotion, be it good or bad.
I think you are trying to portray yourself in a manner that isn't actually who you are, or at least not 100%. That's just my two cents. It happens on the site often.
I think your confusion would be cleared up if you fully read and understand my post. Your questions about it are already answered. There's no contradictions.
I will try to simplify the main points even more for you.
Justify definition:
1. To demonstrate or prove to be just, right, or valid
2. To declare free of blame; absolve.
3. To free (a human) of the guilt and penalty attached to grievous sin. Used of God.
4. Law
a. To demonstrate sufficient legal reason for (an action taken).
b. To prove to be qualified as a bondsman.
5. Printing To adjust the spacing within (lines in a document, for example), so that the lines end evenly at a straight margin.
The typical use of the word "justify" is to prove something to be "right" or "just".
"If you mean justification as in "making it right", then you're wrong."
There's nothing complex about this. I don't think in terms of right and wrong so I'd never even venture into that territory of trying to make what I do "right". Nothing is right or wrong, it just "IS". If I don't think it's wrong, then why would I try to make it be right? I wouldn't, and I'm not.
If you use the term "justify" to mean validate or lend reasoning behind then I guess that could be construed as acceptable however as I said above "justify" seems a strong word for that and I don't like the ambiguity. I'm also not trying AT ALL to demonstrate my reasoning (I haven't even stated my reasoning OR goal) to anyone else so this fact makes justify even less of a proper word here.
*Basically, I think justify is the wrong word.
"Same goes for the "I am indifferent towards their feelings", but you enjoy the conclusion that makes them show emotion, be it good or bad."
*I don't care ABOUT them personally but I care that my work has had effect. Who doesn't want to know that their work is paying off? The emotion shows the effect, it proves success and lends to the ultimate goal. It's a "paycheck". I really don't know how to simplify this any more. I put a very good analogy in the previous post to explain this. I don't see what's so hard to understand about that.
Quite frankly, I am getting a bored, and my flu is getting worse.
You are trying to seperate "reason" with "justification".
Here is the definition, copy and pasted, of "reason".
rea·son
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Noun
A cause, explanation, or justification for an action or event.
"Justification".
Quite frankly, my response to you was more so to see how hard you would try convince me of this image you are showing.
I only "really" read this bit properly:
"*I don't care ABOUT them personally but I care that my work has had effect. Who doesn't want to know that their work is paying off? The emotion shows the effect, it proves success and lends to the ultimate goal. It's a "paycheck". I really don't know how to simplify this any more. I put a very good analogy in the previous post to explain this. I don't see what's so hard to understand about that."
The work was the theft, not the victim of the theft, as you said, you are indifferent towards the victim. The effect and success of theft is that you have the thing you thieved, not who you thieved from. You can't say the success of the act is how the victim acts, then say you are indifferent towards the victim. That is saying you are indifferent towards the goal and ends, which means you wouldn't care about thieving as much as you claim to care about it.
You give me definitions of justify, but I am sure you skipped the actual definition shown right at the top when you Google it because you know it complies with what I am saying. Here is the definition:
jus·ti·fy
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Show or prove to be right or reasonable.
Be a good reason for.
To "reason".
There is nothing complex about this. You are trying to come off as sadistic and liking how people react to your bad deed, all while trying to say you are indifferent (don't care) about how they react.
You are making contradictions, how you can't see that is beyond me.
I think you care about trying to portray this image too much, as you spend a lot of time trying to convince me that what you say is true.
"Quite frankly, my response to you was more so to see how hard you would try convince me of this image you are showing."
Yes, it's pretty obvious that you were being purposely pig headed and trying to incite a pissing contest. If you'd like to continue talking then proceed as a man, not a child.
I have made no portrayal of myself as anything other than a thief. I think you're trying to create something there that isn't. I have stated NOTHING of my ideas, goals, achievements or any such thing.
Moving along.
"The work was the theft, not the victim of the theft.....The effect and success of theft is that you have the thing you thieved, not who you thieved from."
This is your opinion on your theft, not mine. We are 2 different people with 2 different motives and 2 different outcomes, you can't thrust your idea and motivations of theft to me. Remember this: --*My goal includes A LOT more than just having the item*-- Again, I have not ever stated my goal so don't make assumptions.
I'm indifferent to his feelings as a person to another person. This means I don't feel guilt or remorse for victimizing him. However his loss is my gain, in more ways than one, thus I enjoy his loss and I enjoy his distress. Part of my goal includes causing distress, hence I enjoy it when it happens. Got that now?
"You give me definitions of justify, but I am sure you skipped the actual definition shown right at the top when you Google it because you know it complies with what I am saying."
I used freedictionary because I have it on my toolbar, there was nothing underhanded going on with that. If you want to continue to use justify then that's your right. I object to it and won't use it myself because of the strong connotations of "making right" and the ambiguity. There are much more fitting and less influencing terms than justify. Motive would be a much better term.
"You are trying to come off as sadistic and liking how people react to your bad deed"
You got the wrong impression, once again you are reading more into it than is there. The reaction is crucial because it lends to the goal. It's really as simple as that but you don't know what my goal is so I wouldn't expect you to fully understand this. It has nothing to do with being sadistic (I don't believe I am sadistic), and my actual purpose of causing&enjoying distress is very far from that.
If I'm making contradictions then outline them. So far the ones you think you've noticed have just been your own misunderstandings.
You call me an idiot yet you already broke a rule. Do not discuss illegal activity. You are a Klepto. It is short for Kleptomanic. You are either that or antisocial. You certainly do fit one of those. An antisocial person will often do impulsive things with out any regard to others. You seem to think its fun to steal and do not regard anyone else’s feelings. You do not care about right or wrong and only do it to amuse yourself.
I pulled this off a website:
Self-Help Strategies
Self-help methods for the treatment of this disorder are often overlooked by the medical profession because very few professionals are involved in them. Groups can be especially helpful for people with this disorder, if they are tailored specifically for antisocial personality disorder. Individuals with this disorder typically feel more at ease in discussing their feelings and behaviours in front of their peers in this type of supportive modality. Leaders of such self-help support groups, though, must be wary of individuals who come to group just to brag about their exploits and who may seek to use the group inappropriately. Usually a group can be very helpful and beneficial to most people with this disorder, once they overcome their initial fears and hesitation to join such a group. Many support groups exist within communities throughout the world which are devoted to helping individuals with this disorder share their commons experiences and feelings.
Ok, you got my attention, because I refuse for anyone to not understand obvious contradictions.
"I am not trying to portray myself as anything other than a thief".
A thief is something that takes something that doesn't belong to them without consent. That is what a thief is.
You are trying to portray yourself as a thief that likes to view the negative effect it has one people, which is something that being a thief isn't about, viewing the reaction of the victim, it is about the thing you thieve.
By liking and caring about how the victim reacts negatively and gaining pleasure from them being stolen from, you are trying to portray yourself as a thief that likes to see people upset.
This isn't rocket science. A thief isn't about the victim of your action, being a thief is about the items you steal.
You have state nothing of your ideas, goals, achievements, or any such thing.
The goal of thieving is to succeed in thieving. Trying to find a deeper meaning to thieving is looking to find deep meaning in simple things. This might not be your "Only" goal, but it is a goal none the less, unless you think successfully stealing what you want to steal is not a "goal" of thieving, in which case, I wouldn't consider thieving if I had such a belief structure.
You just said that you are indifferent towards the people you thieve from. You don't care about them, that is what indifference means.
Quote: "Who doesn't want to know that their work is paying off? The emotion shows the effect, it proves success and lends to the ultimate goal."
If the goal, for whatever reason, needs to be validated on how the "victim" reacts, then you make how the "victim" reacts one of the goals, not just the thieving of the items. How can you be indifferent towards the victims, yet imply that that the way to tell if your work is paying off is by how the victim reacts, rather than successfully taking what you were thieving?
"I'm indifferent towards how the victims feel, but how they feel due to my theft is something I "like" to see, as it validates if what I done have "effect" on them"...You want to know how they feel due to your crime, but don't care about their feelings once finding out...?
If you can't see the contradiction, I doubt you ever will.
As for your goal having "a lot more" to do with having them, that doesn't change the point of what I was saying. I didn't say that what I explained was your "only" goal, but that it was still a goal, as you care to see how they react after you thieve from them.
You can't care about how they react, yet not care. You can't have your cake and eat it, too.
So you think that not being indifferent towards the victim is not liking his "positive" reactions? It's not about "positive" reactions or "negative ones, it's if you like "ANY" of his reactions, that can be, you guessed it, his distress. "I don't care about how he reacts, I care about how reacts in distress".
Again, this just feels like you trying to have an opening to make yourself seem like some sociopathic person, when the need to explain what you explained was not needed, which makes me think that you gave me unnecessary information for the sake to give this image of yourself off to me, which makes me think you "want" to be this type of person you portray yourself to be, but aren't. If you were this person you wish to be, I wouldn't be proud, the reasoning behind this persona is not sadistic, not indifferent towards things, it's just a walking contradiction that is incapable of realizing it, which is insulting, not complimenting.
I also don't think you realize what else I was doing with the "justify" word. Ofcourse, your response will be that you "knew" that, right? (although you and I both know you didn't).
You are trying so hard to make it seem like you know you are wrong, but want to be wrong. You are trying to make it so people don't think that you think you are right, you want to portray yourself as "I am wrong, I know I am wrong, but I don't care". This just makes me thing, again, that you are trying to portray yourself as a big bad wolf, not because you are, but because you wish you were. Again, you aren't succeeding in portraying that persona, but it's obvious how you are trying to portray yourself in that manner.
So, you're telling me that you wanting to see someone in distress, has something to do with this big disaster plan? How does "seeing" this person in distress effect a plan? It wouldn't. If you have stolen from the person before, you know that they will be distressed by their items missing, so staying to watch it just makes no sense other than you "liked" seeing them in distress with no reason behind it.
I have outlined your contradictions. I gave copy and pasted proof to the wordings you said were wrong that made what you said contradictory, and you said "well I got it from this other source", where as I got it from the front page of Google, the official one, on the most prominent search engine for information.
Quite frankly, I think all of what you are saying is just BS. I think you have stolen a few things, watched their reaction, inflated yourself due to it, and now have this feeling you are some sort of mastermind with a great menacing plan at the end.
And I know you will not admit this, and I know you know, so you can say "That's not true!" if you wish, but you know this. You want me to ask what your plan is. Maybe you don't want to explain the plan, but you want people to take this interest in this "overall goal" you have, as you think it is just one big great well thought out, menacing plan, that you want people to ask about it, regardless of if you will tell them or not.
You know it, I know it, you can disagree all you want, but people like you come around here all the time.
Now I doubt I will respond to your next message, as I have written alot here, you will most likely respond to what I said saying how I am wrong, and I will have ways to respond that would need this much effort and time, which I really just don't want to invest my time in to.
You remind me of the type that wants to be a criminal more than they want to commit the crime.
You have only further compounded your misunderstandings. Most of what you have mentioned has already been gone over 2 or 3 times. I am not going over it again if it has already been answered to the point that a kindergartner could understand it. I'd suggest you re-read the previous posts until it clicks.
Sprinkled throughout, you keep stating your opinions as facts. I'm not going to get into an opinion versus opinion war with someone who thinks their opinions are facts. We see things different ways and have different motives, neither one of us is right or wrong in matters of opinion. No point going there.
You are also making some outrageous assumptions, accusations and harebrained theories which I refuse to even acknowledge anymore because you have really gone off the deep end this time. You don't know one single fact about my life and it's irrelevant anyway, so...it's pointless.
I am also not going to respond to your attempts at insults. You have been very persistent in trying to insult me and I haven't responded yet and I'm not going to. Grow up.
If you would like to clean up the last 2 posts, make it much shorter and to the point (I don't need 3 or 4 paragraphs saying the same thing over and over), leave out the insults and assumptions about me as a person and make points that haven't already been answered then I'll respond point by point. As it stands now, I am not willing to respond to this jumbled mess above.
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Going to be honest, and no offense intended, but I stopped reading at the first paragraph. I'm just too ill to put enough effort in to reading and responding to this, as I can't say I care enough about putting the effort in as much as I can see it going to need if it progresses any further
It's not a new subject for me to be involved in, as I have myself been involved and talked to people with very same views on the subject as yourself, so I don't exactly feel the motivation to engage in the topic again.
Unfortunately, my curiosity has gotten the best of me, and I have seen little nips of your response, and again, no offense intended, but I think it is filled with too many contradictions. Such as, "If you mean justification by making it right, you are wrong" and "Give a reason to justify it, then yes". That mixed with what I said and how you are justifying it by your own idea of justification, it just seems too contradicting.
Same goes for the "I am indifferent towards their feelings", but you enjoy the conclusion that makes them show emotion, be it good or bad.
I think you are trying to portray yourself in a manner that isn't actually who you are, or at least not 100%. That's just my two cents. It happens on the site often.
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I think your confusion would be cleared up if you fully read and understand my post. Your questions about it are already answered. There's no contradictions.
I will try to simplify the main points even more for you.
Justify definition:
1. To demonstrate or prove to be just, right, or valid
2. To declare free of blame; absolve.
3. To free (a human) of the guilt and penalty attached to grievous sin. Used of God.
4. Law
a. To demonstrate sufficient legal reason for (an action taken).
b. To prove to be qualified as a bondsman.
5. Printing To adjust the spacing within (lines in a document, for example), so that the lines end evenly at a straight margin.
The typical use of the word "justify" is to prove something to be "right" or "just".
"If you mean justification as in "making it right", then you're wrong."
There's nothing complex about this. I don't think in terms of right and wrong so I'd never even venture into that territory of trying to make what I do "right". Nothing is right or wrong, it just "IS". If I don't think it's wrong, then why would I try to make it be right? I wouldn't, and I'm not.
If you use the term "justify" to mean validate or lend reasoning behind then I guess that could be construed as acceptable however as I said above "justify" seems a strong word for that and I don't like the ambiguity. I'm also not trying AT ALL to demonstrate my reasoning (I haven't even stated my reasoning OR goal) to anyone else so this fact makes justify even less of a proper word here.
*Basically, I think justify is the wrong word.
"Same goes for the "I am indifferent towards their feelings", but you enjoy the conclusion that makes them show emotion, be it good or bad."
*I don't care ABOUT them personally but I care that my work has had effect. Who doesn't want to know that their work is paying off? The emotion shows the effect, it proves success and lends to the ultimate goal. It's a "paycheck". I really don't know how to simplify this any more. I put a very good analogy in the previous post to explain this. I don't see what's so hard to understand about that.
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Quite frankly, I am getting a bored, and my flu is getting worse.
You are trying to seperate "reason" with "justification".
Here is the definition, copy and pasted, of "reason".
rea·son
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Noun
A cause, explanation, or justification for an action or event.
"Justification".
Quite frankly, my response to you was more so to see how hard you would try convince me of this image you are showing.
I only "really" read this bit properly:
"*I don't care ABOUT them personally but I care that my work has had effect. Who doesn't want to know that their work is paying off? The emotion shows the effect, it proves success and lends to the ultimate goal. It's a "paycheck". I really don't know how to simplify this any more. I put a very good analogy in the previous post to explain this. I don't see what's so hard to understand about that."
The work was the theft, not the victim of the theft, as you said, you are indifferent towards the victim. The effect and success of theft is that you have the thing you thieved, not who you thieved from. You can't say the success of the act is how the victim acts, then say you are indifferent towards the victim. That is saying you are indifferent towards the goal and ends, which means you wouldn't care about thieving as much as you claim to care about it.
You give me definitions of justify, but I am sure you skipped the actual definition shown right at the top when you Google it because you know it complies with what I am saying. Here is the definition:
jus·ti·fy
/ˈjəstəˌfī/
Verb
Show or prove to be right or reasonable.
Be a good reason for.
To "reason".
There is nothing complex about this. You are trying to come off as sadistic and liking how people react to your bad deed, all while trying to say you are indifferent (don't care) about how they react.
You are making contradictions, how you can't see that is beyond me.
I think you care about trying to portray this image too much, as you spend a lot of time trying to convince me that what you say is true.
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"Quite frankly, my response to you was more so to see how hard you would try convince me of this image you are showing."
Yes, it's pretty obvious that you were being purposely pig headed and trying to incite a pissing contest. If you'd like to continue talking then proceed as a man, not a child.
I have made no portrayal of myself as anything other than a thief. I think you're trying to create something there that isn't. I have stated NOTHING of my ideas, goals, achievements or any such thing.
Moving along.
"The work was the theft, not the victim of the theft.....The effect and success of theft is that you have the thing you thieved, not who you thieved from."
This is your opinion on your theft, not mine. We are 2 different people with 2 different motives and 2 different outcomes, you can't thrust your idea and motivations of theft to me. Remember this: --*My goal includes A LOT more than just having the item*-- Again, I have not ever stated my goal so don't make assumptions.
I'm indifferent to his feelings as a person to another person. This means I don't feel guilt or remorse for victimizing him. However his loss is my gain, in more ways than one, thus I enjoy his loss and I enjoy his distress. Part of my goal includes causing distress, hence I enjoy it when it happens. Got that now?
"You give me definitions of justify, but I am sure you skipped the actual definition shown right at the top when you Google it because you know it complies with what I am saying."
I used freedictionary because I have it on my toolbar, there was nothing underhanded going on with that. If you want to continue to use justify then that's your right. I object to it and won't use it myself because of the strong connotations of "making right" and the ambiguity. There are much more fitting and less influencing terms than justify. Motive would be a much better term.
"You are trying to come off as sadistic and liking how people react to your bad deed"
You got the wrong impression, once again you are reading more into it than is there. The reaction is crucial because it lends to the goal. It's really as simple as that but you don't know what my goal is so I wouldn't expect you to fully understand this. It has nothing to do with being sadistic (I don't believe I am sadistic), and my actual purpose of causing&enjoying distress is very far from that.
If I'm making contradictions then outline them. So far the ones you think you've noticed have just been your own misunderstandings.
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You call me an idiot yet you already broke a rule. Do not discuss illegal activity. You are a Klepto. It is short for Kleptomanic. You are either that or antisocial. You certainly do fit one of those. An antisocial person will often do impulsive things with out any regard to others. You seem to think its fun to steal and do not regard anyone else’s feelings. You do not care about right or wrong and only do it to amuse yourself.
I pulled this off a website:
Self-Help Strategies
Self-help methods for the treatment of this disorder are often overlooked by the medical profession because very few professionals are involved in them. Groups can be especially helpful for people with this disorder, if they are tailored specifically for antisocial personality disorder. Individuals with this disorder typically feel more at ease in discussing their feelings and behaviours in front of their peers in this type of supportive modality. Leaders of such self-help support groups, though, must be wary of individuals who come to group just to brag about their exploits and who may seek to use the group inappropriately. Usually a group can be very helpful and beneficial to most people with this disorder, once they overcome their initial fears and hesitation to join such a group. Many support groups exist within communities throughout the world which are devoted to helping individuals with this disorder share their commons experiences and feelings.
Ok, you got my attention, because I refuse for anyone to not understand obvious contradictions.
"I am not trying to portray myself as anything other than a thief".
A thief is something that takes something that doesn't belong to them without consent. That is what a thief is.
You are trying to portray yourself as a thief that likes to view the negative effect it has one people, which is something that being a thief isn't about, viewing the reaction of the victim, it is about the thing you thieve.
By liking and caring about how the victim reacts negatively and gaining pleasure from them being stolen from, you are trying to portray yourself as a thief that likes to see people upset.
This isn't rocket science. A thief isn't about the victim of your action, being a thief is about the items you steal.
You have state nothing of your ideas, goals, achievements, or any such thing.
The goal of thieving is to succeed in thieving. Trying to find a deeper meaning to thieving is looking to find deep meaning in simple things. This might not be your "Only" goal, but it is a goal none the less, unless you think successfully stealing what you want to steal is not a "goal" of thieving, in which case, I wouldn't consider thieving if I had such a belief structure.
You just said that you are indifferent towards the people you thieve from. You don't care about them, that is what indifference means.
Quote: "Who doesn't want to know that their work is paying off? The emotion shows the effect, it proves success and lends to the ultimate goal."
If the goal, for whatever reason, needs to be validated on how the "victim" reacts, then you make how the "victim" reacts one of the goals, not just the thieving of the items. How can you be indifferent towards the victims, yet imply that that the way to tell if your work is paying off is by how the victim reacts, rather than successfully taking what you were thieving?
"I'm indifferent towards how the victims feel, but how they feel due to my theft is something I "like" to see, as it validates if what I done have "effect" on them"...You want to know how they feel due to your crime, but don't care about their feelings once finding out...?
If you can't see the contradiction, I doubt you ever will.
As for your goal having "a lot more" to do with having them, that doesn't change the point of what I was saying. I didn't say that what I explained was your "only" goal, but that it was still a goal, as you care to see how they react after you thieve from them.
You can't care about how they react, yet not care. You can't have your cake and eat it, too.
So you think that not being indifferent towards the victim is not liking his "positive" reactions? It's not about "positive" reactions or "negative ones, it's if you like "ANY" of his reactions, that can be, you guessed it, his distress. "I don't care about how he reacts, I care about how reacts in distress".
Again, this just feels like you trying to have an opening to make yourself seem like some sociopathic person, when the need to explain what you explained was not needed, which makes me think that you gave me unnecessary information for the sake to give this image of yourself off to me, which makes me think you "want" to be this type of person you portray yourself to be, but aren't. If you were this person you wish to be, I wouldn't be proud, the reasoning behind this persona is not sadistic, not indifferent towards things, it's just a walking contradiction that is incapable of realizing it, which is insulting, not complimenting.
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I also don't think you realize what else I was doing with the "justify" word. Ofcourse, your response will be that you "knew" that, right? (although you and I both know you didn't).
You are trying so hard to make it seem like you know you are wrong, but want to be wrong. You are trying to make it so people don't think that you think you are right, you want to portray yourself as "I am wrong, I know I am wrong, but I don't care". This just makes me thing, again, that you are trying to portray yourself as a big bad wolf, not because you are, but because you wish you were. Again, you aren't succeeding in portraying that persona, but it's obvious how you are trying to portray yourself in that manner.
So, you're telling me that you wanting to see someone in distress, has something to do with this big disaster plan? How does "seeing" this person in distress effect a plan? It wouldn't. If you have stolen from the person before, you know that they will be distressed by their items missing, so staying to watch it just makes no sense other than you "liked" seeing them in distress with no reason behind it.
I have outlined your contradictions. I gave copy and pasted proof to the wordings you said were wrong that made what you said contradictory, and you said "well I got it from this other source", where as I got it from the front page of Google, the official one, on the most prominent search engine for information.
Quite frankly, I think all of what you are saying is just BS. I think you have stolen a few things, watched their reaction, inflated yourself due to it, and now have this feeling you are some sort of mastermind with a great menacing plan at the end.
And I know you will not admit this, and I know you know, so you can say "That's not true!" if you wish, but you know this. You want me to ask what your plan is. Maybe you don't want to explain the plan, but you want people to take this interest in this "overall goal" you have, as you think it is just one big great well thought out, menacing plan, that you want people to ask about it, regardless of if you will tell them or not.
You know it, I know it, you can disagree all you want, but people like you come around here all the time.
Now I doubt I will respond to your next message, as I have written alot here, you will most likely respond to what I said saying how I am wrong, and I will have ways to respond that would need this much effort and time, which I really just don't want to invest my time in to.
You remind me of the type that wants to be a criminal more than they want to commit the crime.
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You have only further compounded your misunderstandings. Most of what you have mentioned has already been gone over 2 or 3 times. I am not going over it again if it has already been answered to the point that a kindergartner could understand it. I'd suggest you re-read the previous posts until it clicks.
Sprinkled throughout, you keep stating your opinions as facts. I'm not going to get into an opinion versus opinion war with someone who thinks their opinions are facts. We see things different ways and have different motives, neither one of us is right or wrong in matters of opinion. No point going there.
You are also making some outrageous assumptions, accusations and harebrained theories which I refuse to even acknowledge anymore because you have really gone off the deep end this time. You don't know one single fact about my life and it's irrelevant anyway, so...it's pointless.
I am also not going to respond to your attempts at insults. You have been very persistent in trying to insult me and I haven't responded yet and I'm not going to. Grow up.
If you would like to clean up the last 2 posts, make it much shorter and to the point (I don't need 3 or 4 paragraphs saying the same thing over and over), leave out the insults and assumptions about me as a person and make points that haven't already been answered then I'll respond point by point. As it stands now, I am not willing to respond to this jumbled mess above.