If you care to explore the world you live in, you will see many great women thinkers, inventors, and constructors. You have internet access therefore you have the opportunity to learn that with a simple web search if you so choose.
There are a multitude of women on Earth with an IQ higher than yours, and with muscles bigger than yours. This is not meant to insult you, but instead a mere fact that there is always someone bigger, and smarter than you, and some of them happen to be female, believe it or not. Failing to realize this shows you don't know as much as you claim to.
The thing between your legs actually means less than you perceive it to. If you understand biology then you will also understand that sex is not just male and female. Sex is also in part the chemical and hormonal make up of the entire mind and body. There are men with female minds and less "masculine" bodies, and vice versa, with everything in between. You may not like it, but that's the truth.
I have never said some women have not been smart, inventors, or never contributed. I will never say that. I have said that compared to the male thinkers, inventors, etc, you will see that the female womens pale in comparison, not that there haven't been any female ones at all.
Yes, there are many women with higher IQs than mine, just like there are plenty of females with higher IQs than Einstein, which his was about 150, I believe. My point being, IQ alone tends to not do so well, or isn't reliable at all as an overall conclusion to how intelligent someone is or can become.
There are many females smarter in intelligence than me, I will never disagree. But, the highest IQs are male, with about two females being on the top ten list, with the first one being about fourth or fifth.
As much as there are smarter women than myself (which I agree there obviously is), there are thousands of men smarter than those women.
As for the strength thing, possibly. I was blessed with a very good natural build, with very good strength. There probably is some females out there that are stronger than some males out there, but in no way are there a big amount that are stronger than a naturally well built male.
It isn't likely, nor impossible.
Again, I have never said there is nobody smarter than me. Making false assumptions on what you believe someone believes shows that you 'do not know what you claim to'.
The testicles are a primary source of testostirome. Without them, it is very unlikely or impossible for a woman to reach the actual mind set of a male's.
I have no done a lot of research on the subject, and there are definetely women more masculine than there fellow women, but that does not say as much as a male, given the testosterome from the testicles the females does not have.
So forgive me for being skeptical, but I do not believe all of what you said is truth, and simply stating it is does not make it so.
I know that simply stating things doesn't make it so. I wish it did, because that would be wonderful. You are a great fellow debater I must say, but you are insulting to women by and large. It is not for me to ask why...
Perhaps there are not as many smart women at the top of the list or the top of their fields because society has not permitted it. There are billions of people in countries around the world still to this day where women do not have the same opportunities as men to become educated or even learn of their potential. They can't work, can't vote, and can't even show their hair. Many parts of South Asia and East Asia exemplify this.
There are many parts of the world where the men are of very small stature- 5 feet tall... Some of them are even physically weak of muscular strength compared to that of a woman from another ethnic group where the women are often 6 feet. Much like sex, our strength is individual, and so is our intelligence. A sturdy women who can give birth squatting in a field while pulling a plow may not be as smart as the brainiac who has superior math skills but never needs to lift a finger manually. She doesn't need to be smart, and he doesn't need to be strong. We all have our own gifts, and they are not exclusive to sex.
I have done extensive research on the topic and women do have testosterone. It is produced by the ovaries and released via the adrenal glands. Some women have an "over production" of testosterone, and therefore they develop many of the characteristics that men have physically and mentally. Although the testicles produce far larger amounts of testosterone particularly in the adolescent and young adult years, that tapers off throughout life, and by middle age most men's testosterone levels are so low that they loose many of their more masculine qualities putting them on par with women in terms of aggression. If you live in North America then you will see commercial for pills for men with "Low T". All testosterone does really in the animal world is make us want to dominate, and across all species that is the common thread and it makes us all act like jerks.
Yes, there are some crappy ladies out there, but there are also crappy men too. It is evenly split down the middle. We are all just people at the end of the day.
It was nice debating with you, but I will end my side of the debate here and ignore anything else you'd have to say on the topic because I feel your intention is to endorse the continual oppression of women.
Meh, such a world would be harmful than positive, if anyone could do it, that is.
Saying that women are not on the top of those fields because society would not permit them to be seen as the best isn't too accurate. Today's society is far more interested in making sure females get seen as just as capable and/or better than men. For example, how there are more females than males in the education system, yet society is still focussing on encouraging females in to education rather than the male gender that obviously needs it now. Or how Yahoo constantly shows articles about how women are b etter bosses, better at finance, better risk takers, etc. There is a reason, but saying it is because nobody will allow women to be seen as one of the top is definetely not it.
Yes, I agree, there are places with real opression of women, and I am against such opression. It is the false opression that feminists claim western women have that I dislike.
But remember, the people that are getting these high up ranks in science, etc, that are males are not from the countries where women are opressed, so it is not like I base my beliefs on areas where women are opressed. Doing so would just be obviously irrational of me.
So I do understand that there are a lot of women that are being hurt and opressed, really opressed, and even though my heart goes out to them, and that I would support them getting rights, that does not change that I based my belief on western society where such opression is not happening.
I agree, which I think I tried to imply in my previous reply (trying to hurry up, so can't look for the specific part). If I did not make it obvious or implied it easily, then I apologize. There definetely are men weaker than average men to the point of having just above female strength, and there are women that have just above female strength aswell. My point was that although this happens, it is in the vast minority of the times.
The whole difference in things and the 'we are all individuals' part kind of makes me skeptical. Females and males share different body size, different brain chemical releases (in amounts), different size, etc. It is far more likely for someone to find males that would like the same job as other males would like (same with women and other women) than it is to find men and women that preffer the same job. I think we do have a big part of us that involves being individuals, but also a part that gives both genders something that makes them enjoy the same things as their fellow men and women in their same gender, kind of like how women tend to enjoy work in social sciences more, and males in maths, engineering, etc.
Yes, women do have testosterome, if you thought I was implying they didn't, and that was somehow my fault by choosing poor wordings to explain that, then I apologize, but what I meant was that the testicles give far more testosterome to males than the amount females get in their way. Testosterome is what gives us more muscle growth, and other things I would have to look up to remember. I think blood preasure was one, not sure.
I don't blame only women for what happen to men, because without the higher ups allowing such things (which tend to be males), it wouldn't happen. What I do find irritating with females is how they have allowed such protection to go to their heads that they have a rather "woe is me" attitude nowadays.
I don't think it is split down the middle. The male gender has been the ones to cause most trouble for humanity, along side the best of humanity. I have never said women cause the most trouble, nor ever will.
I have never believed males could do no wrong, because they have done the worst of it.
I am not for opression, I am for equality. I expect men to be able to get the same safety nets women get, that we are to be completely equal.
I believe if the female gender does not want to accept the negatives of men or give men the positives of women (along side with the negative, ofcourse), then they should not be allowed the positives.
That is sticking to equality. I want equalitym full equality, or none of it given. Not for special treatment.
Is it normal to hate working with all one sex?
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Hello friend,
If you care to explore the world you live in, you will see many great women thinkers, inventors, and constructors. You have internet access therefore you have the opportunity to learn that with a simple web search if you so choose.
There are a multitude of women on Earth with an IQ higher than yours, and with muscles bigger than yours. This is not meant to insult you, but instead a mere fact that there is always someone bigger, and smarter than you, and some of them happen to be female, believe it or not. Failing to realize this shows you don't know as much as you claim to.
The thing between your legs actually means less than you perceive it to. If you understand biology then you will also understand that sex is not just male and female. Sex is also in part the chemical and hormonal make up of the entire mind and body. There are men with female minds and less "masculine" bodies, and vice versa, with everything in between. You may not like it, but that's the truth.
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Hello, you?
I have never said some women have not been smart, inventors, or never contributed. I will never say that. I have said that compared to the male thinkers, inventors, etc, you will see that the female womens pale in comparison, not that there haven't been any female ones at all.
Yes, there are many women with higher IQs than mine, just like there are plenty of females with higher IQs than Einstein, which his was about 150, I believe. My point being, IQ alone tends to not do so well, or isn't reliable at all as an overall conclusion to how intelligent someone is or can become.
There are many females smarter in intelligence than me, I will never disagree. But, the highest IQs are male, with about two females being on the top ten list, with the first one being about fourth or fifth.
As much as there are smarter women than myself (which I agree there obviously is), there are thousands of men smarter than those women.
As for the strength thing, possibly. I was blessed with a very good natural build, with very good strength. There probably is some females out there that are stronger than some males out there, but in no way are there a big amount that are stronger than a naturally well built male.
It isn't likely, nor impossible.
Again, I have never said there is nobody smarter than me. Making false assumptions on what you believe someone believes shows that you 'do not know what you claim to'.
The testicles are a primary source of testostirome. Without them, it is very unlikely or impossible for a woman to reach the actual mind set of a male's.
I have no done a lot of research on the subject, and there are definetely women more masculine than there fellow women, but that does not say as much as a male, given the testosterome from the testicles the females does not have.
So forgive me for being skeptical, but I do not believe all of what you said is truth, and simply stating it is does not make it so.
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Hello, it's me again,
I know that simply stating things doesn't make it so. I wish it did, because that would be wonderful. You are a great fellow debater I must say, but you are insulting to women by and large. It is not for me to ask why...
Perhaps there are not as many smart women at the top of the list or the top of their fields because society has not permitted it. There are billions of people in countries around the world still to this day where women do not have the same opportunities as men to become educated or even learn of their potential. They can't work, can't vote, and can't even show their hair. Many parts of South Asia and East Asia exemplify this.
There are many parts of the world where the men are of very small stature- 5 feet tall... Some of them are even physically weak of muscular strength compared to that of a woman from another ethnic group where the women are often 6 feet. Much like sex, our strength is individual, and so is our intelligence. A sturdy women who can give birth squatting in a field while pulling a plow may not be as smart as the brainiac who has superior math skills but never needs to lift a finger manually. She doesn't need to be smart, and he doesn't need to be strong. We all have our own gifts, and they are not exclusive to sex.
I have done extensive research on the topic and women do have testosterone. It is produced by the ovaries and released via the adrenal glands. Some women have an "over production" of testosterone, and therefore they develop many of the characteristics that men have physically and mentally. Although the testicles produce far larger amounts of testosterone particularly in the adolescent and young adult years, that tapers off throughout life, and by middle age most men's testosterone levels are so low that they loose many of their more masculine qualities putting them on par with women in terms of aggression. If you live in North America then you will see commercial for pills for men with "Low T". All testosterone does really in the animal world is make us want to dominate, and across all species that is the common thread and it makes us all act like jerks.
Yes, there are some crappy ladies out there, but there are also crappy men too. It is evenly split down the middle. We are all just people at the end of the day.
It was nice debating with you, but I will end my side of the debate here and ignore anything else you'd have to say on the topic because I feel your intention is to endorse the continual oppression of women.
Can you debate anything else? :)
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Meh, such a world would be harmful than positive, if anyone could do it, that is.
Saying that women are not on the top of those fields because society would not permit them to be seen as the best isn't too accurate. Today's society is far more interested in making sure females get seen as just as capable and/or better than men. For example, how there are more females than males in the education system, yet society is still focussing on encouraging females in to education rather than the male gender that obviously needs it now. Or how Yahoo constantly shows articles about how women are b etter bosses, better at finance, better risk takers, etc. There is a reason, but saying it is because nobody will allow women to be seen as one of the top is definetely not it.
Yes, I agree, there are places with real opression of women, and I am against such opression. It is the false opression that feminists claim western women have that I dislike.
But remember, the people that are getting these high up ranks in science, etc, that are males are not from the countries where women are opressed, so it is not like I base my beliefs on areas where women are opressed. Doing so would just be obviously irrational of me.
So I do understand that there are a lot of women that are being hurt and opressed, really opressed, and even though my heart goes out to them, and that I would support them getting rights, that does not change that I based my belief on western society where such opression is not happening.
I agree, which I think I tried to imply in my previous reply (trying to hurry up, so can't look for the specific part). If I did not make it obvious or implied it easily, then I apologize. There definetely are men weaker than average men to the point of having just above female strength, and there are women that have just above female strength aswell. My point was that although this happens, it is in the vast minority of the times.
The whole difference in things and the 'we are all individuals' part kind of makes me skeptical. Females and males share different body size, different brain chemical releases (in amounts), different size, etc. It is far more likely for someone to find males that would like the same job as other males would like (same with women and other women) than it is to find men and women that preffer the same job. I think we do have a big part of us that involves being individuals, but also a part that gives both genders something that makes them enjoy the same things as their fellow men and women in their same gender, kind of like how women tend to enjoy work in social sciences more, and males in maths, engineering, etc.
Yes, women do have testosterome, if you thought I was implying they didn't, and that was somehow my fault by choosing poor wordings to explain that, then I apologize, but what I meant was that the testicles give far more testosterome to males than the amount females get in their way. Testosterome is what gives us more muscle growth, and other things I would have to look up to remember. I think blood preasure was one, not sure.
I don't blame only women for what happen to men, because without the higher ups allowing such things (which tend to be males), it wouldn't happen. What I do find irritating with females is how they have allowed such protection to go to their heads that they have a rather "woe is me" attitude nowadays.
I don't think it is split down the middle. The male gender has been the ones to cause most trouble for humanity, along side the best of humanity. I have never said women cause the most trouble, nor ever will.
I have never believed males could do no wrong, because they have done the worst of it.
I am not for opression, I am for equality. I expect men to be able to get the same safety nets women get, that we are to be completely equal.
I believe if the female gender does not want to accept the negatives of men or give men the positives of women (along side with the negative, ofcourse), then they should not be allowed the positives.
That is sticking to equality. I want equalitym full equality, or none of it given. Not for special treatment.