You are extremely immature, inexperienced, ignorant and hateful.
I have already answered your points but you do not seem to get it or are blinded so much by your bias and hateful feelings that you won't get it. I'm all for having a discussion but you apparently aren't.
I understand your points, the points made by a person to excuse why somehow cleaning their own mess qualifies as a job so they don't have to actually leave the house to work. Contributing a useless baby to an overcrowded world is not an accomplishment.
When I was the one working, having my SO take care of the house and kids was worth more to me than him making a few hundred bucks a week and having to have someone else watching my kids (that is something I will not do, ever). He wasn't 'living off' me, he was providing more value in work taking care of things around the house than I'd get out of him bringing in a bit of money working for someone else.
Shit, when I was around 21 I had to move back to my parents house and instead of paying rent, all my mom wanted was for me to clean, buy groceries and cook. My mom LOVES money but for her it was more worth it to have me do those things because she doesn't like to. She wouldn't say I was 'living off her' because she was getting what she wanted out of the deal which was worth more to her than a rent check.
All of this is perfectly fine, I just want these "stay at home" parents to call it what it is. It's not a job, let alone the "hardest one in the world"
Let me put it this way, High voltage line workers have to climb out of a helicopter onto live electrical wiring wearing a conductive suit that flows extreme voltage through it to avoid killing the worker. If they don't discharge electricity before and after climbing on and off the wire, the helicopter explodes and every one dies.
Now I personally would never do this, but its total bullshit in a world where extremely dangerous jobs like this exist, for a bunch of sanctimonious unemployed people who sit around watching TV eating Ice cream and playing stupid baby games fora couple hours a day to say they have the "hardest job on earth" just because they're bored and lonely from not really doing anything productive all day. Its not hard and its not a job, its called basic taking care of yourself and the children you decided to birth. Kids aren't productive, and personally I wish there were none because honestly I dont give a fuck if the human race ends after I die, and kids are annoying.
You definitely aren't ignorant at all. The "stay at home" moms nonsense is just that, total and complete nonsense. It is not a job and it will never be a job because it creates no wealth.
Is it (was it) necessary for the traditional household? Yup.
Unfortunately feminism and women's liberation poisoned the collective minds of society (specifically women) into thinking this is "sexist", and/or they should be wonderfully rewarded for taking this on. It definitely is nowhere near approaching "the hardest job in the world" LOL. Hilarious to think looking after an infant that spends the majority of it's time sleeping anyway is a difficult undertaking.
None of the stuff "wigz" or "charli.m" detailed are difficult at all. I take care of a house myself, laundry, yard work, cleaning, etc....I certainly don't list 2 incomes on my tax return. And I don't consider myself as "working" 2 jobs.
Sitting inside a warm, comfy house with plenty to entertain yourself with (computer, television, etc) while your child basically plays on their own for the most part, needs a couple feedings and a couple diaper changes, then nap time with plenty of modern appliances that basically do the housework for you IS NOT A JOB. It will never be a JOB.
The people who consider it a "job" probably should have considered why they had kids to begin with.
Thank you! Im not saying every SAHP is a piece of crap, but its not a job any more than fixing your own car or wiping your own ass. My whole argument is you don't fix your own car when you're unemployed and call it going to work. Its just taking care of your own crap.
The people who do piss me off are the ones who never had a job to begin with, always lived off family or romantic partners, and now that they have kids their job is being MOM. I just think its funny how this person keeps arguing with me to defend a nonsense argument. A stay at home mom, will complain about a woman with 7 kids on welfare not getting a job. But isn't that woman doing the job of mom? So somehow because you have a financially successful or overworked partner now all of a sudden the unemployment turns into not only a job but an extremely hard one??
Anyone who makes being mommy their full time job only had a kid because they don't want to have to work outside the home.
IIN to hate "stay at home moms"?
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You are extremely immature, inexperienced, ignorant and hateful.
I have already answered your points but you do not seem to get it or are blinded so much by your bias and hateful feelings that you won't get it. I'm all for having a discussion but you apparently aren't.
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I understand your points, the points made by a person to excuse why somehow cleaning their own mess qualifies as a job so they don't have to actually leave the house to work. Contributing a useless baby to an overcrowded world is not an accomplishment.
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No, you obviously don't understand.
When I was the one working, having my SO take care of the house and kids was worth more to me than him making a few hundred bucks a week and having to have someone else watching my kids (that is something I will not do, ever). He wasn't 'living off' me, he was providing more value in work taking care of things around the house than I'd get out of him bringing in a bit of money working for someone else.
Shit, when I was around 21 I had to move back to my parents house and instead of paying rent, all my mom wanted was for me to clean, buy groceries and cook. My mom LOVES money but for her it was more worth it to have me do those things because she doesn't like to. She wouldn't say I was 'living off her' because she was getting what she wanted out of the deal which was worth more to her than a rent check.
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All of this is perfectly fine, I just want these "stay at home" parents to call it what it is. It's not a job, let alone the "hardest one in the world"
Let me put it this way, High voltage line workers have to climb out of a helicopter onto live electrical wiring wearing a conductive suit that flows extreme voltage through it to avoid killing the worker. If they don't discharge electricity before and after climbing on and off the wire, the helicopter explodes and every one dies.
Now I personally would never do this, but its total bullshit in a world where extremely dangerous jobs like this exist, for a bunch of sanctimonious unemployed people who sit around watching TV eating Ice cream and playing stupid baby games fora couple hours a day to say they have the "hardest job on earth" just because they're bored and lonely from not really doing anything productive all day. Its not hard and its not a job, its called basic taking care of yourself and the children you decided to birth. Kids aren't productive, and personally I wish there were none because honestly I dont give a fuck if the human race ends after I die, and kids are annoying.
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You definitely aren't ignorant at all. The "stay at home" moms nonsense is just that, total and complete nonsense. It is not a job and it will never be a job because it creates no wealth.
Is it (was it) necessary for the traditional household? Yup.
Unfortunately feminism and women's liberation poisoned the collective minds of society (specifically women) into thinking this is "sexist", and/or they should be wonderfully rewarded for taking this on. It definitely is nowhere near approaching "the hardest job in the world" LOL. Hilarious to think looking after an infant that spends the majority of it's time sleeping anyway is a difficult undertaking.
None of the stuff "wigz" or "charli.m" detailed are difficult at all. I take care of a house myself, laundry, yard work, cleaning, etc....I certainly don't list 2 incomes on my tax return. And I don't consider myself as "working" 2 jobs.
Sitting inside a warm, comfy house with plenty to entertain yourself with (computer, television, etc) while your child basically plays on their own for the most part, needs a couple feedings and a couple diaper changes, then nap time with plenty of modern appliances that basically do the housework for you IS NOT A JOB. It will never be a JOB.
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Thank you! Im not saying every SAHP is a piece of crap, but its not a job any more than fixing your own car or wiping your own ass. My whole argument is you don't fix your own car when you're unemployed and call it going to work. Its just taking care of your own crap.
The people who do piss me off are the ones who never had a job to begin with, always lived off family or romantic partners, and now that they have kids their job is being MOM. I just think its funny how this person keeps arguing with me to defend a nonsense argument. A stay at home mom, will complain about a woman with 7 kids on welfare not getting a job. But isn't that woman doing the job of mom? So somehow because you have a financially successful or overworked partner now all of a sudden the unemployment turns into not only a job but an extremely hard one??
Anyone who makes being mommy their full time job only had a kid because they don't want to have to work outside the home.