Is it normal to find animals sexually attractive

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I'm pretty sure I already know the answer to this... I'm not trolling anyone here so just stick with me. This is a genuine question that requires complete humility for the sake of understanding a less obvious side of humanity.

I've read every study and documentation on zoophilia and bestiality (every single one). I've seen most websites and forums that exist on the topic. I've talked with hundreds of people who identify themselves as "zoosexual".

I would like to know if the world (all of you) really, honestly believes there should be a species-based line "thou shall not cross". Or if it's just another one of those social acceptance things that everyone more or less goes along with because you honestly don't care.

You vote anonymously here, so please be honest with your vote.

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  • wigsplitz
    11 years ago | pl

    The thing is, animals can't consent. Who cares what YOU are attracted to. You act like that matters when it comes to what's OK. Well, YOU are not the only important factor here.

    You can be attracted to an animal all day long, but acting on it is a different situation.

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    • Gelmurag
      11 years ago | pl

      Just for argument's sake, define this "consent" you speak of.

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      • wigsplitz
        11 years ago | pl

        Well most animals don't come sniffing around for you to fuck it. Most animals, you'd have to tie them down, or otherwise convince them, against their insincts, to let you fuck them. Even those that don't, you still know that animal is only advancing on you because it's instinct to breed is telling it that it's OK....So it's taking complete advantage, either way.

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        • lease
          11 years ago | pl

          You've argument was, at best, weak. I've met more dogs that wanted to hump my leg than not. I've never seen a female ANYTHING in heat that didn't want to fuck something. I'm no zoophile, but if you've ever used a P2P search engine, you've accidentally come across some junk that you wish you could UNsee - and I have to say it's usually male dogs riding human females - and they're all "ready to go."

          The argument of "consent" is invalid because it implies that it's possible for the subject not-yet-consenting to gain the capacity TO consent, which of course isn't possible in creatures. Sometimes the term is used to define a behavioral action in animals, mostly by non-scientisis. Biologically, it defines nothing.

          So really, the argument is a moral one - and 99% of oral arguments are based on societal consensus and opinion. So then, you should say "In my opinion, it's wrong,

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          • flutterhigh
            11 years ago | pl

            You're not taking mental capacity into account. If a twelve year old girl or boy came up to you and asked if you wanted to have sex, I would assume you would decline. This is not an arbitrary distinction - humans typically reach physiological/neurological maturity in their late teens or early 20s. You may want to contest this and I'm willing to debate with you, but animals simply do not have the cognitive faculties of a mature human being. Of course it's a moral question, and of course it's social consensus and opinion, but so are your reasons for not going on a homicidal rampage. That doesn't invalidate anything.

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            • lease
              11 years ago | pl

              Did you not read my post before you answered? I argued that "consent" IS a human distinction, not animal. Hence, we've deemed that a 12 year old doesn't have the capacity to consent, but will inherently develop that capacity over time. The same cannot be said for an animal.

              I didn't write off anything as "invalid," rather, I said the initial argument was weak for the above-stated reasons, which it was.

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            • flutterhigh
              11 years ago | pl

              And to the OP:

              For the record, I offer no judgment of your moral or mental state, but I am philosophically opposed to zoophilia.

              Curiously, that isn't a poll option. As if anyone who disagrees can only do so on an emotional level. I don't make death threats and I don't subscribe to any particular religion; I neither abhor nor dislike it. But I am fundamentally opposed to it, not because I think it's "gross", but on an intellectual level. For someone asking for humility in the face of prejudice, you don't seem open to that idea.

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          • wigsplitz
            11 years ago | pl

            As for animal porn....do you not realize, many times they are using scent lure to get the animal to 'hump' the human. Using a scent lure would be no different than slipping a human a roofie, IMO. I don't know what your experience with animals is, but if you've ever seen a male animal that has caught scent of a female in heat....watch out. And note, animals don't 'smell' or care about other animals in heat that are not their own species. So a cat in full heat is NOT going to rouse the interests of a bull. So, basically, animals don't typically have interspecies sex. Which would mean, they PROBABLY don't care to have sex with you either.

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            • lease
              11 years ago | pl

              No, no, no. Animals have interspecies sex all the time. Could you please form your arguments using something resembling facts?

              Scent lure to hump humans = false
              scent lure likened to Rohypnol = false
              Animals don't smell or care about other animals in heat = false

              I know...I know...all the animals are dumber than us and they're biologically driven to reproduce, even if no offspring can come from it. We, with our mighty intelligence, should find it overtly immoral to have sex with an animal. The problem is, as the higher being, you're asserting your intelligence over an animal - when in fact that animal may be far more intelligent than you.

              By the way, homosexual sex and interracial sex are also overtly immoral.
              ....they're not really (to me) but I'm trying to see where your pattern ends.

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          • wigsplitz
            11 years ago | pl

            Did you miss this part of what I said?

            "Even those that don't, you still know that animal is only advancing on you because it's instinct to breed is telling it that it's OK....So it's taking complete advantage, either way."

            What I was saying was, the animal may appear 'willing' but you're taking advantage of it, as it's willingness comes from an instinct to breed, not desire to fuck a human. The animal does not fully know what it's doing. Like flutterhigh said, you have to take mental capacity into account. If you fuck an animal, you are taking advantage of it. Period.

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            • lease
              11 years ago | pl

              Sorry, but I still feel your reasoning is weak because you fail to define advantage. I comprehend what you're getting at; It's just a catch-22. Is someone taking advantage of the animal because people have greater mental capacity? Using that logic, I shouldn't have had sex with half the people I have since I was far brighter.

              If you have a dog, then you take "advantage" of it constantly. When it craps in your house, you beat it. When it chews up your things, you beat it. When it won't listen, you haul it around by the leash. You technically abuse it constantly.

              It comes down to a moral argument ONLY. What else ya got..

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  • lolplease
    7 years ago | pl

    One last final random point.

    I'm sure most people that are against zoosex for moral reasons, see nothing morally wrong with the animal meat industry.

    Tell me, did that pig consent to being born in a dark cage of cement and iron.. to live a life in confined spaces, living in it's own shit and eat GMO soya bean, get injected by antibiotics and probably a couple growth hormones? NOT FOR SHIT.

    Do you care? Nope!

    Why should you, you need meat anyway right? You're not the only animal who eats meat, right? You have canines, yeah?

    Suddenly the animal's consent doesn't matter anymore.

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  • lolplease
    7 years ago | pl

    My female dog, when I was young, tried to hump me all the time when I'd play fight her.

    If you cared to look into animals, you'll find lots of videos of animals trying interspecies sex with out scent lures.

    When a female cat is on heat, she want's you to fuck her.

    Consent isn't only a verbal thing. If something tries to fuck you, it's already consented to fuck you.

    DEAL WITH IT.

    We are also animals. And we're fucking stupid. Destoryed our own habitat, believed the lies of countless profiteers, given up our natural given freedoms all to the idea of some sort of "good and evil".

    There is no good and evil, just thinks you do and don't like. I know it's tough but facts are often harder than fiction.

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  • wigsplitz
    11 years ago | pl

    You know, when a dog comes up and humps your leg, I don't think you push it off of you for any sort of moral reason. I think it's just an instinct, like 'this thing shouldn't be humping me, wtf',

    Yes, there are animals who 'hump' improper species, and there's people who want to hump either improper species or improper age of their own species, but it's more rare...thankfully. I think the animals who do that would rather be, or think they are, humping the right thing. People, I don't know. I wouldn't think they'd actually believe they are doing the right thing, no matter what. Justify it, yes, but actually believe it, no.

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  • Yumazing
    11 years ago | pl

    I think it's kinda hawt. I'll never do it, but hey, I don't judge.

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  • 41ph4m413
    11 years ago | pl

    fucking disgusting

    cut your dick off sick fuck

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    • lease
      11 years ago | pl

      Way to express yourself with one-syllable words!

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