1.)) Don't interpret my anger as against you. Does a man get mad at a car when it goes as directed by it's driver?
Of course not. And my anger is not directed at the vessels false ideas find themselves able to use.
2.)) "Spirit is an abstract concept"/ "That's all we do is define our reality"
We define the PERCEPTION of our reality but we don't define it. There are certain principles in our world that are true no matter whether they are perceived or not.
"Spirit is an abstract concept"
It is but how does that prevent it from some form of explanation. Love is abstract but can you pretend to not be conscious of what love is?
3.)) You're running off into bunny trails. My point is that all "abstract" beliefs are accepted on faith, no exceptions.
With that in mind, there's nothing holier or more enlightened about Spiritualism as it's Religion misnamed.
Why are you angry? And I think you just called me a vessel of false ideas...can I be childish and say "takes one to know one"
1- yes, people get mad at inanimate objects all the time. More accurately, they take the frustration they have in themselves out on what they see before them.
2. What is reality without our perception of it? True, it exists without our defining it. So why are we defining it?
I am conscious of love. I can feel it in my soul. What does it feel like to you? How do you define love? What makes you love? Do you think your experience of love is the same as mine?
3. The bunny trails need to be explored my friend. Your arguments are solid yet they seem to lack a feminine quality. What are your creative pursuits? It seems you are arguing for the sake of arguing, which I can respect. But don't for a moment think that alternative ways of viewing the world are "wrong" or "false" because you can't find a "fact" to make it fit into a box. Some facts just aren't allowed for human consumption.
Spiritualism isn't Religion misnamed, or renamed. Spirit transcends religion. Religion is earthly, spirit is universal.
I'm a man. I speak from the perspective of masculinity and if that offends you then perhaps it's time you come over to my side of things.
After all a world of Valkeers is a world of peace, harmony, and brotherhood.
"Bunny trails need to be explored"
Nope. And I'm not going to.
"Spiritualism isn't religion"
I gave you the proof for why spiritualism is another religion and you never addressed it. If you're in denial on your own religion then there's no sense in debating you.
Whether you like it or not spiritualism IS unquestionably religion.
You do know that all humans are made up of feminine and masculine traits? It has nothing to do with gender.
I did tell you the difference between the two and you are ignoring it. You did not give me proof. You reiterated a half digested philosophical debate you heard (or possibly read) somewhere. Unless of course you are referring to the "ism" at the end of the word. In that case, I really was referring more to "spirituality." But you can turn anything into a religion if you want.
Proof. ha! Unless you site sources you may as well be quoting from the bible. Proof....
There is nothing about your comments that make me think your world is more harmonious with brotherhood. Maybe you should allow for sisterhood and community.
Is it normal to feel this way about religion??
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1.)) Don't interpret my anger as against you. Does a man get mad at a car when it goes as directed by it's driver?
Of course not. And my anger is not directed at the vessels false ideas find themselves able to use.
2.)) "Spirit is an abstract concept"/ "That's all we do is define our reality"
We define the PERCEPTION of our reality but we don't define it. There are certain principles in our world that are true no matter whether they are perceived or not.
"Spirit is an abstract concept"
It is but how does that prevent it from some form of explanation. Love is abstract but can you pretend to not be conscious of what love is?
3.)) You're running off into bunny trails. My point is that all "abstract" beliefs are accepted on faith, no exceptions.
With that in mind, there's nothing holier or more enlightened about Spiritualism as it's Religion misnamed.
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Why are you angry? And I think you just called me a vessel of false ideas...can I be childish and say "takes one to know one"
1- yes, people get mad at inanimate objects all the time. More accurately, they take the frustration they have in themselves out on what they see before them.
2. What is reality without our perception of it? True, it exists without our defining it. So why are we defining it?
I am conscious of love. I can feel it in my soul. What does it feel like to you? How do you define love? What makes you love? Do you think your experience of love is the same as mine?
3. The bunny trails need to be explored my friend. Your arguments are solid yet they seem to lack a feminine quality. What are your creative pursuits? It seems you are arguing for the sake of arguing, which I can respect. But don't for a moment think that alternative ways of viewing the world are "wrong" or "false" because you can't find a "fact" to make it fit into a box. Some facts just aren't allowed for human consumption.
Spiritualism isn't Religion misnamed, or renamed. Spirit transcends religion. Religion is earthly, spirit is universal.
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Ok...
"your arguments lack a feminine quality"
I'm a man. I speak from the perspective of masculinity and if that offends you then perhaps it's time you come over to my side of things.
After all a world of Valkeers is a world of peace, harmony, and brotherhood.
"Bunny trails need to be explored"
Nope. And I'm not going to.
"Spiritualism isn't religion"
I gave you the proof for why spiritualism is another religion and you never addressed it. If you're in denial on your own religion then there's no sense in debating you.
Whether you like it or not spiritualism IS unquestionably religion.
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You do know that all humans are made up of feminine and masculine traits? It has nothing to do with gender.
I did tell you the difference between the two and you are ignoring it. You did not give me proof. You reiterated a half digested philosophical debate you heard (or possibly read) somewhere. Unless of course you are referring to the "ism" at the end of the word. In that case, I really was referring more to "spirituality." But you can turn anything into a religion if you want.
Proof. ha! Unless you site sources you may as well be quoting from the bible. Proof....
There is nothing about your comments that make me think your world is more harmonious with brotherhood. Maybe you should allow for sisterhood and community.
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"Not quite conversation
It was somewhere in between
You said everything is taught
And I listened patiently
All this talking pony
Still monkeys the whole time
We could not help from flinging shit
In our modern suits and ties"
-modest mouse-