i can’t be bothered to read that whole post but I agree with you. i’m a vegetarian. statistically, I will live longer than a meat eater. If vegetarians and vegans live longer than meat eaters, that’s solid proof that humans don’t need meat to survive. The fact that we can’t eat it raw should be proof enough. We are the only “carnivores” that can’t eat raw meat or kill an animal with out weapons. We are actually frugivores. Our teeth don’t resemble carnivore teeth at all. Our teeth resemble cow teeth more than anything. Our bodies aren’t even made to digest meat. I completely agree with you.
We can eat raw meat. Just not all raw meat as it harbors disease. But even spinach can harbor the same disease and make you shit yourself a new dress size. Also, this meat helped our brains grow so we leamed that cooking the meat made it more edible. Potatoes are also more edible when cooked. The problem isn't meat alone, it's what we do with it. But we do the same with plants and no one really cares.
Alternative: vegetables, especially dark leafy greens, are brain food, and when I tasted my green vegetables (spinach, green beans and broccoli) in my saltless oilless spices-based dressing, drinking coffee with it, I felt smarter. I do really care, spinach has to be boiled first to kill the microbes, and it harbors no diseases when mixed with other vegetables, if it was too slimming I wouldn't eat it. And I don't eat coconuts since they harbor sicknesses. And I don't do the same with plants as you would with meat.
Exactly, different foods, different treatment. Spicy, fermented and dried....mmmm. And it is all about you. What works for you does not work for all. Nutrition is somewhat personal. I know I can't eat food the way most people do. Walnuts and fish are brain food too. And cumin is your friend.
Now you're talking. We can get adequate nutrients from an all-plant diet. But the regular plant diets won't work, veganism and everything it believes in doesn't apply to me, unless it was in support of my dietary science. It's done by doubting everything about diets, and disproving the predictions, doubting beliefs, doubting any science that doubts my science, asking questions, and a very little logic, observation and testing. This is how I came to know that my diet is not simply the result of a better stomach but it also makes you go to the toilet nicely. It however, isn't flatulent, I designed my diet to have an aversion to all disgusting things, including flatulence, including burping, including all things a hippie stands for, it even brings peace on myself, real peace, in other words, peace and quiet. Peace is no method, but the weller you are the more at peace you are.
Adequate does not mean optimal. And nutrition is not a one size fits all kind of lifestyle. I honestly have not idea what you mean by regular plant diets as I change my diet weekly based on what my body is asking for. This week it only wants salad, nuts, and cheese...and chocolate. Last week it wanted bison. Disgusting is subjective, and sometimes burping is caused by stress or swallowing actual air. It is not always food related. An aversion to farting and burping...that just makes you sound an old lady who was raised that those things were not ladylike. When women are more prone to gas because of anatomy. And being pregnant...wow, that is a whole other diet issue. My point, what works for you should be based on personal experience and not emotions alone. Nutrition can be quite psychological. Assuming you know all about it simply because you like science means that you missed the whole meal time aspect of nutrition. You will get more out of food that is prepared with love and shared with loved ones. Some things cannot be measured by science.
Our bodies are made to digest meat that's why meat has been a major part of human's diet for thousands of years. We can actually eat raw meat. Look up chicken or beef tartare. Another proof that we naturally need meat is that our bodies don't produce vitamin b12 and we can only get it naturally from animal products. Nobody is saying we are carnivores, we are omnivores. We are also not frugivores since fruit is a smaller portion of most peoples diet. A study done by the Sax Institute found that "following extensive adjustment for potential confounding factors there was no significant difference in all-cause mortality for vegetarians versus non-vegetarians" and another study done in the united kingdom found that "United Kingdom–based vegetarians and comparable nonvegetarians have similar all-cause mortality."
Here are the URLs to the studies if you want to read.
https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/103/1/218/4569305
lol i’ve been a vegetarian for like four years, never had to take any b12 supplements and the doctor says i am not deficient in any area. if humans need meat, vegans and vegetarians wouldn’t live longer than meat eaters (statistically) and you guys wouldn’t be getting heart disease (statistically you guys are at a much higher risk than us). also i’m aware that you guys on here weren’t calling yourselves carnivores but i know many meat eaters who address themselves that way. and again, i meant OMNIVOROUS FRUGIVORE LIKE CHIMPANZEES WHICH ARE OUR MOST CLOSELY RELATED SPECIES. Lol bye
That's your belief, but really we're herbivores, 1. man needs to eat his vegetables, 2. he needs to eat herbs, and 3. he also needs to eat fruit, we were made to eat a wide variety of foods, not a bunch of similar and related foods.
I'm not agreeing with the frugivore factor, the human body needs more than just fruit, keeping this in mind has created a person who only eats fruit, what have I done?
Well I’m not eating apples all day. I’m actually a vegetarian and have been since I was 15 and found common sense.
I literally said in my first comment that I am a vegetarian. I was agreeing with you. I don’t know why you’re being rude. I don’t only eat fruit, dumb ass.
Also, I put “carnivores” in quotations for a reason. I’ve been vegetarian long enough to have experienced many arguments with ignorant meat eaters who call themselves carnivores.
Is it normal to conclude that man wasn't made for eating animal foods?
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i can’t be bothered to read that whole post but I agree with you. i’m a vegetarian. statistically, I will live longer than a meat eater. If vegetarians and vegans live longer than meat eaters, that’s solid proof that humans don’t need meat to survive. The fact that we can’t eat it raw should be proof enough. We are the only “carnivores” that can’t eat raw meat or kill an animal with out weapons. We are actually frugivores. Our teeth don’t resemble carnivore teeth at all. Our teeth resemble cow teeth more than anything. Our bodies aren’t even made to digest meat. I completely agree with you.
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We can eat raw meat. Just not all raw meat as it harbors disease. But even spinach can harbor the same disease and make you shit yourself a new dress size. Also, this meat helped our brains grow so we leamed that cooking the meat made it more edible. Potatoes are also more edible when cooked. The problem isn't meat alone, it's what we do with it. But we do the same with plants and no one really cares.
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Alternative: vegetables, especially dark leafy greens, are brain food, and when I tasted my green vegetables (spinach, green beans and broccoli) in my saltless oilless spices-based dressing, drinking coffee with it, I felt smarter. I do really care, spinach has to be boiled first to kill the microbes, and it harbors no diseases when mixed with other vegetables, if it was too slimming I wouldn't eat it. And I don't eat coconuts since they harbor sicknesses. And I don't do the same with plants as you would with meat.
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Exactly, different foods, different treatment. Spicy, fermented and dried....mmmm. And it is all about you. What works for you does not work for all. Nutrition is somewhat personal. I know I can't eat food the way most people do. Walnuts and fish are brain food too. And cumin is your friend.
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Now you're talking. We can get adequate nutrients from an all-plant diet. But the regular plant diets won't work, veganism and everything it believes in doesn't apply to me, unless it was in support of my dietary science. It's done by doubting everything about diets, and disproving the predictions, doubting beliefs, doubting any science that doubts my science, asking questions, and a very little logic, observation and testing. This is how I came to know that my diet is not simply the result of a better stomach but it also makes you go to the toilet nicely. It however, isn't flatulent, I designed my diet to have an aversion to all disgusting things, including flatulence, including burping, including all things a hippie stands for, it even brings peace on myself, real peace, in other words, peace and quiet. Peace is no method, but the weller you are the more at peace you are.
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Adequate does not mean optimal. And nutrition is not a one size fits all kind of lifestyle. I honestly have not idea what you mean by regular plant diets as I change my diet weekly based on what my body is asking for. This week it only wants salad, nuts, and cheese...and chocolate. Last week it wanted bison. Disgusting is subjective, and sometimes burping is caused by stress or swallowing actual air. It is not always food related. An aversion to farting and burping...that just makes you sound an old lady who was raised that those things were not ladylike. When women are more prone to gas because of anatomy. And being pregnant...wow, that is a whole other diet issue. My point, what works for you should be based on personal experience and not emotions alone. Nutrition can be quite psychological. Assuming you know all about it simply because you like science means that you missed the whole meal time aspect of nutrition. You will get more out of food that is prepared with love and shared with loved ones. Some things cannot be measured by science.
Our bodies are made to digest meat that's why meat has been a major part of human's diet for thousands of years. We can actually eat raw meat. Look up chicken or beef tartare. Another proof that we naturally need meat is that our bodies don't produce vitamin b12 and we can only get it naturally from animal products. Nobody is saying we are carnivores, we are omnivores. We are also not frugivores since fruit is a smaller portion of most peoples diet. A study done by the Sax Institute found that "following extensive adjustment for potential confounding factors there was no significant difference in all-cause mortality for vegetarians versus non-vegetarians" and another study done in the united kingdom found that "United Kingdom–based vegetarians and comparable nonvegetarians have similar all-cause mortality."
Here are the URLs to the studies if you want to read.
https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/103/1/218/4569305
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28040519
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lol i’ve been a vegetarian for like four years, never had to take any b12 supplements and the doctor says i am not deficient in any area. if humans need meat, vegans and vegetarians wouldn’t live longer than meat eaters (statistically) and you guys wouldn’t be getting heart disease (statistically you guys are at a much higher risk than us). also i’m aware that you guys on here weren’t calling yourselves carnivores but i know many meat eaters who address themselves that way. and again, i meant OMNIVOROUS FRUGIVORE LIKE CHIMPANZEES WHICH ARE OUR MOST CLOSELY RELATED SPECIES. Lol bye
That's your belief, but really we're herbivores, 1. man needs to eat his vegetables, 2. he needs to eat herbs, and 3. he also needs to eat fruit, we were made to eat a wide variety of foods, not a bunch of similar and related foods.
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I can't tell if you are agreeing with them or not. Vegetarian is the same as being herbivores, as in only eating plants.
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I'm not agreeing with the frugivore factor, the human body needs more than just fruit, keeping this in mind has created a person who only eats fruit, what have I done?
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I didn’t mean we only need fruit. I meant primarily frugivore. My bad. The point is, you don’t need meat to survive.
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Is that so, fruitarian? I know what frugivore means, I'm pretty sure you're eating apples all day.
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Well I’m not eating apples all day. I’m actually a vegetarian and have been since I was 15 and found common sense.
I literally said in my first comment that I am a vegetarian. I was agreeing with you. I don’t know why you’re being rude. I don’t only eat fruit, dumb ass.
Also, I put “carnivores” in quotations for a reason. I’ve been vegetarian long enough to have experienced many arguments with ignorant meat eaters who call themselves carnivores.
http://creationislove.com/humans-are-frugivores-were-designed-to-eat-mostly-fruit/
Chimpanzees are called frugivores, does that mean they only fucking eat fruit? You are so dense.
It’s called Omnivorous Frugivore. That’s what. we. fucking. are.