Is it normal to conclude that man wasn't made for eating animal foods?

I have a sneaking suspicion it's eccentric, but I'm not sure if any of the following is normal. I decided on gluten-free vegan, very few foods in the fridge/house as a result of things I don't eat but at least I found olives, and ate them, mmmmmmmm! It's gluten-free, wheat-, corn- and rice-free, oil/fat-free (maybe some fat in an olive), making sure I get enough B12, omega-3 and iron in the diet, and I'm happy that if I couldn't eat wheat-based potato chips (vegan and salt & vinegar flavored, Pringles), or dairy-based chocolate, or palm sugar/palm oil (there's not much I'm avoiding) I could eat olives, I saw dips in the fridge outside of the house but they weren't the vegan dips I was looking for (they had dairy in them and were tzatziki), and I was looking for hommus to dip a celery stick in it, none there. However I've brought the truth to my attention, we weren't meant to eat animal foods, animal foods are basically inedible, with fats leading to high cholesterol, and flesh which isn't easily digested by the small intestines. In fact I bought a maroon-colored 'Plant Eater' sweatshirt with green writing on it on the internet this night (which is bloody expensive), and I don't eat palm oils/sugars because the orangutans live in such trees and people cut them down with the orangutans in them, that's their home.
And I don't eat sugar, I eat fats and oils rarely, and salt rarely, without precision in my diet, for example there would be salt in it if it was an unsweetened plant milk, or salt if it was olives, it's simple: this is my last resort and I don't like to ever change it again.
So as a result of my invention my mother supports it, she even made for me a salad without oil or salt in it, made of lettuce, cucumbers and celery, the olives I pinched from the fridge after hours of eating the salad, however I wouldn't make such a fuss at the Emperor's Crown restaurant: without sugar, wheat, rice, corn, or palm oil, I'd eat it as long as it were vegan and gluten-free. It's not only because I was designed to eat it but also because gluten and fat-based foods/meat, eggs, and milk make me sick, so I had to invent my own diet. And a good thing I'm not starving, because there is some foods I can eat in the house. Most of the foods weren't vegan gluten-free or following my standards, I know I made it up, stuff that nobody does, I prefer to make foods at home and eat it on the go. The result is quinoa, barley, almond milk in my coffee, etc, I get sick when I drink coconut milk so I stopped drinking it altogether. I do however eat sweetener, and that's because it's the commonest alternative to sugar. Instead of honey I would eat an agave syrup, or maple syrup, or perhaps date syrup. I gave up honey altogether, honey is carried in the bees' stomachs and bee pollen is part of them and they regurgitate the honey, which means any honey and wax taken from the bees destroys a bee's survival with its babies, and honey is a food that's only good for bees, and the wax kills the bees, never will I use candle wax, and as much as possible, despite my wool/cashmere scarves and woolen suit jackets, I would wear, use, and otherwise exploit non-animals. If it's gluten free it's actually, and possibly, easier on the stomach as I've been sick for weeks since the last time I ate meat. But fear not, these vegetables are healing, food is medicine. For the environment, the animals, and my wellbeing. All I see in any of this is the superpositive, I see how good and rather unenjoyable it is to eat like that, yet I don't like to have a single meat again. I'm aiming at this because I'm trying to prove that fussy eaters are the best eaters (but they're not concerned with health like me), believe it or not any absolute vegetarian diet is good for you if you eat right. Is any of this normal?

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  • Alvex

    I agree, man is able to and has always been made for handling eating meat. If anything, I usually feel a little stronger and more energetic when I'm eating more meat everyday. More meat equals more protein, which our muscles and organs need. Yes, I know you can get protein from plant sources such as beans, nuts, and tofu, but the protein options are much more limited, and the higher variety of protein sources we consume, the better. Our bodies need some variety. Now I'm not saying that there is anything wrong with being a vegetarian, since vegetarians eat alot of fruit and vegetables which are healthy, and alot of vegetarians avoid meat due to hating the idea of slaughtering animals which is fine if that's how they feel. But, vegetarians saying that our bodies reject meat and that animal protein is terrible and unnatural, I just don't agree with. Humans have been hunting animals for food for thousands of years, so people eating meat is very natural.

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  • TerriAngel

    You like to ramble on.
    You can't spell either.
    I think you're light headed from lack of protein.
    Eat like the god damned ruler of this planet that you are.
    You'll feel better.
    Vegan, gluten B.S.
    I don't care if I lived a hundred years more.
    Without
    kobe beef
    Lomi Lomi salmon.
    Kalua pork n cabbage
    Spam musubi
    Or a simple B.L.T.
    What's the point?
    Life is for the living, duh.

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    • Hansberger

      I can spell, it's all spelt correctly you jealous person. I know what works for me. Salmon is bear food, meat is dog food, and gluten is a poisonous protein, glue to the power of ten. I tried "eating like a ruler", with meat, and got sick. And B.L.T happens to be skinny, fatty, etc, doesn't feel or taste edible, eggs in the mayonnaise are unnecessary, and wheat is evil therefore the bread it's on is raped from the wheat.

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      • TerriAngel

        You're obviously gay,
        Week of body and mind.
        Go ahead and live without.
        You're delusions will die with you.
        Jealous of what exactly????
        N word please.
        You don't have a single quality I admire.
        Except, stupidity.
        That comes in handy if I want to use someone.

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        • Hansberger

          There's no stupidity, there's only your stupidity. And I wear specs, I have a very complex mathematical equation on my shirt, I found out two diets actually work, without science: veganism and green veganism, it's mathematically correct. I invented green veganism, so what if I create a reality where everyone thinks my stupidity doesn't exist? What if I kill it completely? All this reality makes me want to scream, do you want that reality? Think about it! I'm not gay, I fancy no males. I don't go to gay bars, I'm straight-acting, I always act like a man. Take reality the way it literally is: me, the way you hate me to be, the way you hate to believe and think me to be, wake up! Break all your beliefs, religions and philosophies, everything we were led to believe is false. Change the history, change people's reaction to you, change your rationality, in fact, change everything. My delusions will never die with me, as I found out we were meant to eat some meat. The belief that I'm stupid is a ka-zillion percent false, exactly all that you believe is false, exactly, even if you don't perceieve it, it's false. Perception only belongs to me, not you, therefore no one can perceive the real but me. You retalliating against my argument only proves I'm right. You disbelieving it only proves me right, you not perceiving it only proves I'm right, and proves to me you're wrong, everything proves to me you're wrong, therefore if you exist you're wrong. I was weak of body, not mind, I'm not silly. It doesn't exist. With my veganism I had to make a slight adjustment, jackass!

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          • TerriAngel

            Ka-zillion.
            Find that one in a dictionary.
            You whine and you're wordy.
            What are you a jew also?
            I'll stick with you being gay.
            But in denile.

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  • CozmoWank

    Everything is better with bacon. The same cannot be said for tofu.

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    • Hansberger

      Tofu tastes amazingly like chicken when mixed into a pasta curry, mmmmmmm!

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      • CozmoWank

        No, it tastes like tofu with curry.

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  • Hansberger

    I don't see how. This food can feed a famine, our guts can't handle meat, therefore we can't eat it, it makes sense!

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  • EdgySniper

    Man was made to eat meat, we are omnivores and always have been, studies have shown it was meat that caused early humans to develop the brains that make us such an advanced race today, granted there are other factors as well, but without meat, our brains would never have developed like they did, and we'd only be about as advanced as apes.

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  • Vvaas

    oh fuck off. humans are omnivores meaning we are suppose to eat BOTH plants and meat. omnivore DOES NOT mean herbivore. if you want to fuck up your body that's great good for you. our digestive tracts are closer to a wolves than any herbivores. https://static1.squarespace.com/static/586ee278d1758e4783e7ac72/t/5a79f3ace4966b5472ccd8ba/1517941696027/omnivore+-+herbivore+-+carnivore+comparison+chart.jpg?format=750w

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  • Mmmm... I bet you loovve sucking down that melty butter and cheese on your burger, relishing in the tortured flesh!!!

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    • Hansberger

      Yes I do! Only when offered to me!

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      • Again, I was addressing that lonewolf user. He probs deleted the comments I replied to, making me look like a scrub.

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  • keytten

    Hi, I'm here to pick at the part no one seems to have yet: palm oil has much evolved since, thank you very much, and now tends to be
    1. ecologically friendlier
    by providing homing for other species
    2. an important factor in 3rd world country economies
    In any case, the damage done is done and the work it provides is essential to smaller economies
    meanwhile, you don't hear a pipsqueak from sunflower oil companies. Why is that, you ask? Because they're in the Western countries and the big companies love using it, it costs less for them. And yet, to everyone's surprise, not only do sunflowers take up space, but the West also has an ecology! Did you know 2/3rds of migratory birds never came back to Europe this year due to the use of pesticide killing off the insects they normally prey on? Did you know 93% of house sparrows ave disappeared from Belgium since the 70s? No? Well now you do.
    I agree watching your diet is important.
    I agree that the industry is often rather barbaric about it.
    I agree that it makes sense to try to eat less meats and animal products for your well being, especially if it makes you sick.
    But in the current state of the world, you can only go so far. Everything comes from a terrible place, eating anything will kill you and the planet is fucked. Maybe your olives were picked by 11 year olds in Greece, who knows. Maybe they were full of a pesticide that'll give you some horrifying disease within a dozen years. Who knows. But you do you, watch what you eat and have fun I guess.

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    • Hansberger

      Yes I see! I lost all faith in reason. It's not true, yet the argument is: that palm oil's good for the environment, that birds need insects to live, et al. The truth is it's not what goes in your mouth that defiles you, but what comes out.

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  • bigbudchonga

    No, it's completely and utterly ludicrous. You could spend an hour looking on the internet, and then present a supposedly fact-based case for why the world is run by lizard people. It's such an incredibly basic and obvious fact that humans can and do eat meat. Don't get sucked into believing straight bullshit because it fits with your lifestyle.

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    • Hansberger

      Correct, my next post is on Buddhism, and facts are beyond your subjective reality, some day you will be conscious of it.

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      • bigbudchonga

        Maybe post about how the Budhha was a goat, because it was so long ago no one can prove definitively that he wasn't a goat. It'll be as true as the people who genuinely think humans are herbivores lol.

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        • Hansberger

          I know what's true and it's not what you think.

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          • bigbudchonga

            The lies we tell ourselves aye?

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  • Meowypowers

    Animal foods are for pets and livestock. You are correct.

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  • dontknowdontcare

    You need to relax or you will start to look like a celery too.
    It's not wrong to avoid meat or other products to safe the envirement. It's not wrong to go on a diet because some foods make you sick. If that's what makes you happy, go for it.

    But it does sounds like you went TOO far and took this thing to the next level where it became an obsession. What started as an innocent little thing will now take over your life and let it control you.

    you say we were not 'made' to eat meat. Do you think we were 'made' to enjoy life to the fullest? Because if so, you're not doing it.
    You can't even have lunch with friends anymore without having to worry whats in your salad... you can't warm your hands on a hot coffee cup when it's cold outside, because what if they lied to you and didnt realy use that type of milk?!

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  • Alvex

    Humans are half carnivore, half herbivore. We can handle eating and digesting meat just fine. Animals which are 100℅ herbivores have something in them which cannot handle meat, or else they would naturally get cravings for it and be eating meat out in the wild sometimes, like early Neanderthal humans did, and they ate meat. Humans are not naturally full herbivores, or else our prehistoric ancestors would've eaten only plant based foods in the same way herbivore animals today do. We still need vegetables and fruits too though, the Atkins diet is unnatural and is not healthy for us. We can't eat only meat like carnivore animals such as lions or wolves do. Humans are half and half, we naturally need both meat and plant based foods.

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  • Meatballsandwich

    Meat is awesome!

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    • Hansberger

      Awesome as it is none of it is good, they contribute to problems, I'm not saying my diet applies to everyone, rather I'm saying you should invent your own diet for yourself.

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  • howaminotmyself

    Where do I begin? Gluten is not bad for you unless you have celiac or chrones. Otherwise balance your diet. But first, learn whst that means. Amd of course humans are meant to eat animals. Maybe not the way we currently do, but our bodies are designed to process meat. Take anatomy while brushing up of nutrition.

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    • Hansberger

      I might have one of two of the above diseases, and there's getting less fish in the water, and animals feel pain and are getting brutally killed, I don't call it murder, since that word only applies to the unlawful deliberate killing of humans.

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      • howaminotmyself

        It may be amaranth too. Some people with gluten intolerances are really sensitive to the alternative ingredients that are used. But humans are dumb as a group. Take a test or do an elimination diet. But figure it out.

        Some theories suggest thst plants do feel pain. Also, we have created such huge monocultures that we have made many plant based food nearly extinct. Soy, wheat, corn, etc. Hige swaths of land are eradicated of bugs and rodents to make room for us. We indentify more with cows and pigs than bugs and rodents but doent think for one second that eating plants saves lives. It only takes one you are willing to take. It is about balance and respect for the earth and all life.

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        • CozmoWank

          Rodent lives matter.

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  • Fetiza000

    Respect your ancestors and don't deny the fact that they DID hunt. Why do you think we have discovered spear heads or domesticated wolves throughout history? Oh and here's a little something, since we are long-distance runners, sweat, and still are slower than most animals. We're somehow able to chase them until they DIE of exhaustion. Or do you think that was evolved for something completely different? How about our teeth? How about the way we use our intelligence? Huh? Or are you still not convinced.

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    • Hansberger

      Our teeth don't have fine points even though they're pointy, they can't very well rip into the flesh of an animal or eat a steak very well, therefore our sharp teeth are made for eating into an apple, not the other way around. We use our intelligence by our definition from a good dictionary. All that you said is evolved to be as vegetarian as the gorillas are. Instead of salmon patties I'd have some mushroom patties, and for something completely different a chow mein with tofu added to it. From what I discovered in science my cookbook 'Vegan Cooking' by Eva Batt was right.

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      • Fetiza000

        I didn't say anything about us biting into the flesh of animals, that's WHY we had spears. And spears are WHY we're good throwers. We threw them deep into the animals flesh. WHY do you think we have spears?? Huh? Oh nevermind I think you assume spears are just a ueeless part of human history yep they totally wait oh no wait they had a purpose. Smfh.

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        • Hansberger

          Spears eh? Then if someone speared a rat I would eat it, obviously, I'm a scavenger, not a hunter.

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  • donteatstuffoffthesidewalk

    it sounds tedious exorbitant and expensive

    whatever happened to cheeseburgers?

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    • Hansberger

      They're gone! There's now veggieburgers with vegan cheese on them (gluten-free). This stuff can save a lot of money since vegan foods are cheaper.

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      • donteatstuffoffthesidewalk

        so yall cooks vegan burgers inbetween sermons here?

        it still sounds exhaustin

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        • Hansberger

          Not when I fixed it in mind to hate animals (except perhaps Gizmo the dog), however I eliminated all the boredom by adding variety with less fussiness, therefore part of my diet is to otherwise eat anything I want within my guidelines. Many an autistic person has included certain white meats in their vegetarian diets to not be harsh on themselves including the autistic person I know named Tom, a pollotarian who won't eat turkey, and Hitler, a pseudovegetarian who would eat slices of ham and caviar and no other meat.

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          • donteatstuffoffthesidewalk

            vegetables just aint fillin

            i couldnt do it

            id rather die younger & well fed

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            • Hansberger

              Vegetables are filling, try a potato some time, potatoes count as vegetables.

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  • Hansberger

    By the way, I still believe what angryblonde believes, that we don't need meat to survive, in fact the right amount of nutrients alone is enough to keep us going. But rather than the lack of protein in fruit I prefer my protein. I bet I can make mushroom soup gluten-free, and that mushrooms is the meat needed to survive on without flesh. However my mother supports a diet no matter how weird it may seem to her because she knows all this is a diet fad/special dietary foods. If I find it's not a serious problem then Dad has no excuses, he just needs to feed me the correct foods. It wasn't like that before, before it was fancy lacto-pescetarian and that was it, without rejecting any of the foods in it, until I found out potato crisps gave me gastric reflux so I thought twice before being a lacto-pescetarian again. There's getting less and less fish in the sea, Dad still buys me caviar and he expects me to eat it, I haven't eaten caviar for months! So why would I go back to that again. What freaks the above out is the first time of using paragraphs, fear not, doesn't it look better? :) And by the way most of the vegetarian diets are likely to be the consumption of junk food, I don't want any of it, not even a veggie burger unless I made it myself out of oats and textured vegetable protein. Together with a home made tomato sauce, fried onions, lettuce, tomatoes, on a home made rye bun. First to soak the tvp in hot vegetable stock, then to shape burgers with it, barley flour, and oats, with pepper added, then to fry it with oil brushed on the pan, then I make the burgers. However I can make a chilli con carne using tvp mince, canned tomatoes, oregano, and chilli powder, with lightly fried onions, and kidney beans, cooked on the stove and served with a cashew sour cream and mashed avocado (the only ingredient in the guacomole). This is actually nutritious, and delicious. And is the proper foods of mankind. In fact we could save a famine if we switched to a vegan diet, and the same thing if it was a diet purely liquefied.

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    • angryblonde

      again, not going to read all of that, but i fucking meant “primarily frugivore” and you know that. also, we don’t need as much protein as people think we do. just fucking watch freelee the banana girl on youtube. she’s vegan and most likely the healthiest person on this planet. she studies this kind of shit.

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      • Hansberger

        I don't have to study a thing, you need your protein, because the dictionary says it's essential for health (ironically that includes gluten according to the dictionary). I don't believe in anything based on fantasies inside your head, I believe things based on scientific fact. And I don't think a belief is one especially backed up by evidence, no it's not, it's especially one believed without proof, therefore if anyone believes I'm an idiot that's without proof. What you see in me can you physically see it based on what you believe? No you can't! Where's your proof. The definition of belief: 'something believed, esp. without proof'. Therefore what I discovered based on not getting enough iron/protein is that they're necessary. Think what you want but you're wrong.

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        • angryblonde

          I sent you a link in one of my other comments. There is scientific evidence, dumbass. Also not once did I say you need no protein at all. I said less than what you think.

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  • SmokeEverything

    Im not going to read all of that but you probably shouldn't eat dog or cat food.

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    • Hansberger

      Good advice, but I'll never eat pet food, it's all fit for human consumption.

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  • paramore93

    You're giving hansberger a run for his money with this one.
    This can't not be hansberger. But there's a paragraph in the middle! Help me somebody.

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    • Hansberger

      One of you wouldn't stop going on that I need paragraphs, but that's a once off, never again. I did it to keep the peace.

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      • paramore93

        Your posts are usually interesting, so the paragraph is appreciated.

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  • angryblonde

    i can’t be bothered to read that whole post but I agree with you. i’m a vegetarian. statistically, I will live longer than a meat eater. If vegetarians and vegans live longer than meat eaters, that’s solid proof that humans don’t need meat to survive. The fact that we can’t eat it raw should be proof enough. We are the only “carnivores” that can’t eat raw meat or kill an animal with out weapons. We are actually frugivores. Our teeth don’t resemble carnivore teeth at all. Our teeth resemble cow teeth more than anything. Our bodies aren’t even made to digest meat. I completely agree with you.

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    • howaminotmyself

      We can eat raw meat. Just not all raw meat as it harbors disease. But even spinach can harbor the same disease and make you shit yourself a new dress size. Also, this meat helped our brains grow so we leamed that cooking the meat made it more edible. Potatoes are also more edible when cooked. The problem isn't meat alone, it's what we do with it. But we do the same with plants and no one really cares.

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      • Hansberger

        Alternative: vegetables, especially dark leafy greens, are brain food, and when I tasted my green vegetables (spinach, green beans and broccoli) in my saltless oilless spices-based dressing, drinking coffee with it, I felt smarter. I do really care, spinach has to be boiled first to kill the microbes, and it harbors no diseases when mixed with other vegetables, if it was too slimming I wouldn't eat it. And I don't eat coconuts since they harbor sicknesses. And I don't do the same with plants as you would with meat.

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        • howaminotmyself

          Exactly, different foods, different treatment. Spicy, fermented and dried....mmmm. And it is all about you. What works for you does not work for all. Nutrition is somewhat personal. I know I can't eat food the way most people do. Walnuts and fish are brain food too. And cumin is your friend.

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          • Hansberger

            Now you're talking. We can get adequate nutrients from an all-plant diet. But the regular plant diets won't work, veganism and everything it believes in doesn't apply to me, unless it was in support of my dietary science. It's done by doubting everything about diets, and disproving the predictions, doubting beliefs, doubting any science that doubts my science, asking questions, and a very little logic, observation and testing. This is how I came to know that my diet is not simply the result of a better stomach but it also makes you go to the toilet nicely. It however, isn't flatulent, I designed my diet to have an aversion to all disgusting things, including flatulence, including burping, including all things a hippie stands for, it even brings peace on myself, real peace, in other words, peace and quiet. Peace is no method, but the weller you are the more at peace you are.

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            • howaminotmyself

              Adequate does not mean optimal. And nutrition is not a one size fits all kind of lifestyle. I honestly have not idea what you mean by regular plant diets as I change my diet weekly based on what my body is asking for. This week it only wants salad, nuts, and cheese...and chocolate. Last week it wanted bison. Disgusting is subjective, and sometimes burping is caused by stress or swallowing actual air. It is not always food related. An aversion to farting and burping...that just makes you sound an old lady who was raised that those things were not ladylike. When women are more prone to gas because of anatomy. And being pregnant...wow, that is a whole other diet issue. My point, what works for you should be based on personal experience and not emotions alone. Nutrition can be quite psychological. Assuming you know all about it simply because you like science means that you missed the whole meal time aspect of nutrition. You will get more out of food that is prepared with love and shared with loved ones. Some things cannot be measured by science.

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    • xxLucifer

      Our bodies are made to digest meat that's why meat has been a major part of human's diet for thousands of years. We can actually eat raw meat. Look up chicken or beef tartare. Another proof that we naturally need meat is that our bodies don't produce vitamin b12 and we can only get it naturally from animal products. Nobody is saying we are carnivores, we are omnivores. We are also not frugivores since fruit is a smaller portion of most peoples diet. A study done by the Sax Institute found that "following extensive adjustment for potential confounding factors there was no significant difference in all-cause mortality for vegetarians versus non-vegetarians" and another study done in the united kingdom found that "United Kingdom–based vegetarians and comparable nonvegetarians have similar all-cause mortality."

      Here are the URLs to the studies if you want to read.
      https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/103/1/218/4569305

      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28040519

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      • angryblonde

        lol i’ve been a vegetarian for like four years, never had to take any b12 supplements and the doctor says i am not deficient in any area. if humans need meat, vegans and vegetarians wouldn’t live longer than meat eaters (statistically) and you guys wouldn’t be getting heart disease (statistically you guys are at a much higher risk than us). also i’m aware that you guys on here weren’t calling yourselves carnivores but i know many meat eaters who address themselves that way. and again, i meant OMNIVOROUS FRUGIVORE LIKE CHIMPANZEES WHICH ARE OUR MOST CLOSELY RELATED SPECIES. Lol bye

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    • Hansberger

      That's your belief, but really we're herbivores, 1. man needs to eat his vegetables, 2. he needs to eat herbs, and 3. he also needs to eat fruit, we were made to eat a wide variety of foods, not a bunch of similar and related foods.

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      • xxLucifer

        I can't tell if you are agreeing with them or not. Vegetarian is the same as being herbivores, as in only eating plants.

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        • Hansberger

          I'm not agreeing with the frugivore factor, the human body needs more than just fruit, keeping this in mind has created a person who only eats fruit, what have I done?

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          • angryblonde

            I didn’t mean we only need fruit. I meant primarily frugivore. My bad. The point is, you don’t need meat to survive.

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            • Hansberger

              Is that so, fruitarian? I know what frugivore means, I'm pretty sure you're eating apples all day.

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