Is it normal to believe that men should have no say in abortions?

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  • I'm guessing you have a low libido or is currently single? It's easier said than done.

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    • Not necessarily sticking up for Rose here but, well, let's just say that everyone's different.
      It would seem there are women (& men) with a high sex drive who still stick to committed relationships.

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      • Oh I like Rose! So no hard feelings here at least.

        I think you got me wrong here, I have a VERY high sex drive and I stick to my relationship too. I just wouldn't be able to live without sex to avoid getting pregnant. Been on the pills for seven years and has this far been very active and still no pregnancies.

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        • I like you too (S)aint even if we disagree on some things.

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        • Meh, she's alright at times :)

          Hey, just to be clear I wasn't questioning you or your fidelity...
          You seem cool from the comments I've seen you make.

          Have realised now that I might be wrong but I took her response to mean "If you aren't willing to get pregnant then don't fuck unless you're in a committed relationship" & therefore based your response off that.

          But I suppose I was thinking that most people in a committed relationship wouldn't opt for abortion even if pregnancy was unplanned, but thinking now that's just my beliefs & most likely (definitely) untrue for some people.

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          • While I took it as "Don't fuck until you are ready to have a child" , some people do have this belief too so it wouldn't be strange to me at all.

            I would abort even if I was in a committed relationship unless we would both be ready for it. A child is a life-long commitment and you need to be aware of that.

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            • I dont think I ever want to get pregnant and have kids (adoption maybe). And even if you are ready to have children you don't want one every year.

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              • Agreed. I would want to have two at the VERY most. Mostly because I think that children are happier with a sibling close to their own age.

                But I AM willing to maybe have children with the right male. He must be willing to take on more than 50% of the work because knowing myself I wouldn't be able to deal with children for too much.

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    • She's Catholic.

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    • I have a fairly high sex drive, and I am single. I choose not be intimate outside of a committed, long term and monogamous relationship. However, it wasn't always that way. It's certainly not easy, but it's freed me of a lot of useless and painful drama. When I say it won't kill anyone to not have sex I say it from my own hard won life experiences. I'm not even trying to date now, because I'm choosing to work on my own self improvement. I'll never find the kind of man I want to be with unless I become the best kind of woman I can be.

      To be honest it's especially difficult to be alone during Christmas and New Years time, but it's better than wasting time on a relationship of false intimacy that's based entirely on sex.

      Contrary to what OP seems to believe abortion and far left wing feminism are not the easy answers to everything. Abortion is the killing of a helpless, unborn child. The fetus does feel pain when it is aborted, it even screams and fights against it. Abortion is murder. Both women and men experience deep emotional trauma after an abortion. Typically people may not start to experience this trauma until as much 7 to 10 years after the procedure. The only ones who truly benefit from abortion are the doctors and clinics who make all their money killing for the sake of convenience.

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      • A friend of mine aborted her child since everyone around her sort of pushed the decision onto her. She has suffered a lot since then. I won't argue with you that a lot of people do suffers after a decision like this but if it's the best possible solution for everyone involved I cannot see why not.

        When it all comes down to it, you and I wont probably ever agree on this topic. Where you see a child with a right to it's life I would always put my own comfort first.

        As said earlier I haven't gotten pregnant once during these seven years of sexual activeness so if I DO get pregnant I feel like I at least did everything reasonable expected of me to prevent it except not having sex.

        But you DO have a point in not wanting to waste your time away on people who aren´t worthy of being in your life and a lot of relationships are based around sex these days.

        With my own high libido I really can't see myself in anything other. Of course there must be connections on other levels as well and I have experienced that a lot with my current boyfriend when he has shown me that there's a lot more to it all than just fucking each-other senseless.

        but for me, starting a relationship with sex has been what has worked best for me. probably because it's such a major and important part for me.

        Even if I had been with my current boyfriend for years and we had a strong and solid relationship a child still would not be a welcome part of my life if I am were I am today emotionally.

        My ADHD makes me really unstable and I refuse to go on medications for it. Been going to the gym since June and is going to start therapy to learn how to cope with some of my mood-swings.
        But no, currently I am NOT fit to be a parent and I am far too selfish to undergo a risky pregnancy that will leave my body in a different state than it was in the first place just to abort a child that has a great chance of developing ADHD itself and end up in a less than understanding environment.

        I just feel that we are already enough people on this planet and If I am still as much against having children when I am 35 I will undergo a sterilization. I just do not wish to do anything drastic whilst still being young and immature.

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        • Thanks for your response. Sometimes I think I have ADD or ADHD, but I dunno I'm already up to my neck just with my current mental health problems.

          Since you mention that you're going to the gym, one thing that really has been helping me a lot in the past few months is yoga.

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          • I prefer to explain myself properly rather than to just go "Meh I think this and this and that"

            And basically if you have been going through your life with an undiagnosed ADHD that would explain a whole lot. People in that position are often under the false feeling that they are stupid and that there's a whole lot of other things wrong with them so getting a diagnosis on paper if you have one is really recommended.

            I do agree! Going to the gym was one of the best things I have ever started doing. Managed to go a quickie before Christmas dinner and enduring social activities and loud people was a whole lot easier afterwards.

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