I like to brush myself up occasionally on how fucked up death and mass suffering is. Unfortunately there are aplenty modern examples in 4k resolution.
Saw that cartels job in the mexico texas border. Three heads on a crashed car, man's face burned off as hes begging for death.
Perfect example why trump wanted to kill these guys with drones and commando raids.
People need to face it. Everyone is evil to someone. If you are my enemy, convert, trade or die. I'm on my team (America) so sometimes I got to take a refresher on human cruelty of our enemies (as well as our own goverment)
Well, I certainly have never had a problem with a wall, nor with securing our borders. I'm half Colombian myself, and my mother was an immigrant, she's a proud U.S. citizen now! My mother was a legal immigrant to the United States of America just as much as my Welsh family on my father's side of my family. My great grandfather was Welsh. I don't have a problem with immigrants, but I think that people should only be coming here, or anywhere by legal means. I think all people coming into this country need to be properly vetted, and that people who are criminals DO NOT deserve to come here.
However, I don't think everyone is evil to someone. I don't believe that Jesus Christ was ever evil to anyone, and I also believe that Buddha was never evil to anyone.
I think what the Communist Chinese are doing is evil. I don't believe that the Dalai Lama has ever been evil, nor that the Catholic priests who are being imprisoned, or the Chinese minority Muslims who are being placed in concentration camps. I most definitely believe that Communism in China, and elsewhere is evil!
I don't think that things are as relative, or subjective as some people think.
I meant it in a perspective kind of way. No one is trying to be the bad guys (ISIS sincerely thought they were right) but that doesnt mean we shouldn't cut them down until someone starts surrendering. War sucks but it's how we get countries to stop or start doing things.
Unfortunately, over the last 30 to 40 years we have gotten to a point of wanting to please people because of media coverage. Even high ranking military generals want to conduct a polite war and surgically removed one person or one resource and hope it will drive them to peace talks.
War was never meant to be nice, it needs to be an atrocity otherwise you'll never get full backing from the losing country or group.
You have to get the people to feel we don't want to do that again, and even the people not involved to say you're not going to do that out of my country or neighborhood.
That's why I dont really touch us war plans as a general policy. Yeah I can put in my two cents for the petro dollar and shit but at the end of they day I dont have the best inteligence network on the planet, so all I know is what the media lets through plus some navy buddies but in full reality we weren't told shit.
Yeah, I kinda understand that a lot of shitty bad people think that whatever they're doing is okay, or even righteous, but it's still wrong, and even evil.
What's the level of evil we are dealing with? The ones that use schools to shoot missiles out of and then play up to the media when said school is leveled.
Way I see it if we killed civilian hostages in destroying a battery or weapons depot or weapon placement. I dont really see it as the militaries fault. It's the terrorists fault for thinking we wouldnt level a building if there were kids inside as long as we got some terrorists too. Blame the terrorist not the pilots or soldiers
Terrorist is an abused and overused media/government term.
At one time the term terrorist or terrorist organization was mainly applied to individuals or smaller organization with no government backing.
When groups get in to the hundred of thousands and have sanctuary states and monitary support funneled through even informal government channels, they are no longer terrorist they are a militia of that funding group.
There is an old saying follow the money source then cut off the head of the dragon.
If people are allowing them to operate in there area they're as bad if not more so than the actual fighters.
If a building gets too infested with rats sometimes you have to tear down the whole building.
I would say this could apply from Mexico, Iran, even the US government.
What about your opinion on collateral damage? 10 civilians and under is what the us sets its bar as.
It's bad to have collateral damage i understand why the natives hate the usa, but at a certain point between the guys who will cut your head off for speaking to the Americans vs the Americans bombing or shelling your area because of said terrorists nearby theres not a lot you can do besides wait until you die by either side or move across an extremely dangerous land.
Sucks to be them, I'll be content on the us not wanting to drop hundreds of thousands of dollars of munitions on an area with no strategic reason.
Is it normal to beat and strip thieves naked and parade them in the nude?
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I like to brush myself up occasionally on how fucked up death and mass suffering is. Unfortunately there are aplenty modern examples in 4k resolution.
Saw that cartels job in the mexico texas border. Three heads on a crashed car, man's face burned off as hes begging for death.
Perfect example why trump wanted to kill these guys with drones and commando raids.
People need to face it. Everyone is evil to someone. If you are my enemy, convert, trade or die. I'm on my team (America) so sometimes I got to take a refresher on human cruelty of our enemies (as well as our own goverment)
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The drug cartels are truly evil, disgusting scumbags!
Well, I certainly have never had a problem with a wall, nor with securing our borders. I'm half Colombian myself, and my mother was an immigrant, she's a proud U.S. citizen now! My mother was a legal immigrant to the United States of America just as much as my Welsh family on my father's side of my family. My great grandfather was Welsh. I don't have a problem with immigrants, but I think that people should only be coming here, or anywhere by legal means. I think all people coming into this country need to be properly vetted, and that people who are criminals DO NOT deserve to come here.
However, I don't think everyone is evil to someone. I don't believe that Jesus Christ was ever evil to anyone, and I also believe that Buddha was never evil to anyone.
I think what the Communist Chinese are doing is evil. I don't believe that the Dalai Lama has ever been evil, nor that the Catholic priests who are being imprisoned, or the Chinese minority Muslims who are being placed in concentration camps. I most definitely believe that Communism in China, and elsewhere is evil!
I don't think that things are as relative, or subjective as some people think.
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I meant it in a perspective kind of way. No one is trying to be the bad guys (ISIS sincerely thought they were right) but that doesnt mean we shouldn't cut them down until someone starts surrendering. War sucks but it's how we get countries to stop or start doing things.
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Unfortunately, over the last 30 to 40 years we have gotten to a point of wanting to please people because of media coverage. Even high ranking military generals want to conduct a polite war and surgically removed one person or one resource and hope it will drive them to peace talks.
War was never meant to be nice, it needs to be an atrocity otherwise you'll never get full backing from the losing country or group.
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That's why I dont really touch us war plans as a general policy. Yeah I can put in my two cents for the petro dollar and shit but at the end of they day I dont have the best inteligence network on the planet, so all I know is what the media lets through plus some navy buddies but in full reality we weren't told shit.
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What's the level of evil we are dealing with? The ones that use schools to shoot missiles out of and then play up to the media when said school is leveled.
Way I see it if we killed civilian hostages in destroying a battery or weapons depot or weapon placement. I dont really see it as the militaries fault. It's the terrorists fault for thinking we wouldnt level a building if there were kids inside as long as we got some terrorists too. Blame the terrorist not the pilots or soldiers
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Terrorists are evil.
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Terrorist is an abused and overused media/government term.
At one time the term terrorist or terrorist organization was mainly applied to individuals or smaller organization with no government backing.
When groups get in to the hundred of thousands and have sanctuary states and monitary support funneled through even informal government channels, they are no longer terrorist they are a militia of that funding group.
There is an old saying follow the money source then cut off the head of the dragon.
If people are allowing them to operate in there area they're as bad if not more so than the actual fighters.
If a building gets too infested with rats sometimes you have to tear down the whole building.
I would say this could apply from Mexico, Iran, even the US government.
What about your opinion on collateral damage? 10 civilians and under is what the us sets its bar as.
It's bad to have collateral damage i understand why the natives hate the usa, but at a certain point between the guys who will cut your head off for speaking to the Americans vs the Americans bombing or shelling your area because of said terrorists nearby theres not a lot you can do besides wait until you die by either side or move across an extremely dangerous land.
Sucks to be them, I'll be content on the us not wanting to drop hundreds of thousands of dollars of munitions on an area with no strategic reason.