My point is though, there are no facts directly disproving a god either. No one at this point in time could possibly know why the universe sprung into existence. There are more or less two possible answers:
1) The universe just is. It exists for no reason, it just is.
2) The universe was created by something. We couldn't know the point of this either.
I find the latter a more satisfying answer, so I stick to being an agnostic theist.
There is no other explanation or reason to my beliefs other than that. You could not see before the creation of the universe, so you cannot prove me wrong.
Either way, this argument is getting us nowhere. I respect your opinion, and likewise, I would appreciate if you respected mine, even if you think I'm on the verge of truth. I enjoyed the discussion, however.
Well science doesn't like the word 'created' as the church has destroyed its meaning, by saying they own it.
My understanding (without even looking up the exact atheist forum response).
Is that there isn't any 'reason' for the universe, it started naturally from the Big Bang.
So that would be 1 and half or 2. (I say half or 2, because it wasn't a 'something' that 'created' the universe.
Some say time started and that caused movement. Personally I feel time had always been going on, and the human brain cannot understand infinity. Anyway, science continues on this, we are at 1 second after the bang at this point.
Agree thanks for the discussion.
Obviously I was hoping that you would move your opinions but that's just my arrogance its obviously just up to you. (to see the facts :) )
Is it normal to be undecided on the existence of a god?
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My point is though, there are no facts directly disproving a god either. No one at this point in time could possibly know why the universe sprung into existence. There are more or less two possible answers:
1) The universe just is. It exists for no reason, it just is.
2) The universe was created by something. We couldn't know the point of this either.
I find the latter a more satisfying answer, so I stick to being an agnostic theist.
There is no other explanation or reason to my beliefs other than that. You could not see before the creation of the universe, so you cannot prove me wrong.
Either way, this argument is getting us nowhere. I respect your opinion, and likewise, I would appreciate if you respected mine, even if you think I'm on the verge of truth. I enjoyed the discussion, however.
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Well science doesn't like the word 'created' as the church has destroyed its meaning, by saying they own it.
My understanding (without even looking up the exact atheist forum response).
Is that there isn't any 'reason' for the universe, it started naturally from the Big Bang.
So that would be 1 and half or 2. (I say half or 2, because it wasn't a 'something' that 'created' the universe.
Some say time started and that caused movement. Personally I feel time had always been going on, and the human brain cannot understand infinity. Anyway, science continues on this, we are at 1 second after the bang at this point.
Agree thanks for the discussion.
Obviously I was hoping that you would move your opinions but that's just my arrogance its obviously just up to you. (to see the facts :) )