I find a hypocrisy with it tbh. I'm gay so this doesn't really affect me, but I do stand on the outside making my little observations...
I genuinely don't think many straight men are seriously that shallow. As a woman, be in reasonable shape, take care of your skin, maybe grow your hair out, most straight men will consider you.
But that makes men "shallow" according to a lot of women.
Some of the very same women - "Well I want him to be 6ft, have a beard, go to the gym and work out far harder than women have to, have a good job, don't be balding... *proceeds to list 10 other things*"
Not saying this is all women and all men, there are women who aren't shallow and men who definitely are, but on the whole I do think women are far pickier than men. And then a lot of them play victim deflecting about how "shallow" men are when men point it out. I'm pretty sure a butthurt woman will call me out and try to argue with me over this very post, but that will just prove my point.
PS - Most pressure on women to look good, be super skinny and plaster makeup all over their faces comes from other women and the fashion industry (run almost exclusively by women and gay men), not from straight men.
Tall and large-framed women have the same problems. Most men don't want to be with a woman who's bigger than him. Most men don't want an 'unfeminine' woman (muscular, large bone structure, etc...not fat but imposing natural body structure). Even if she's not bigger than him, if she's too unfeminine or manly looking then she's out. A lot of men are put off by a woman having 'masculine' interests, hobbies, or occupations. And tons of men don't want their woman to earn more money than them.
Remember the Seinfeld episode where that woman Jerry dated had 'man hands'?
I think you're giving men wayyyy too much credit here and failing to see the other side. You seem to be imagining this from the perspective of an 'ideal' woman and ignoring the struggles of women outside of that range.
P.S. Try showing up for a date as a woman without shaving most of your body hair, dressing up and spending at least some time on your hair. Men definitely do expect a certain level of maintenance and thanks to porn most expect hairless armpits, legs and privates. No straight woman is shaving her whole lower body for other women, it's because it's generally expected by men. Ask most any woman...not dating/getting laid?...she's probably not shaving. And men don't tend to realize how much effort goes into even a 'natural' appearance. Men like to say they like no make-up but they don't even realize that the looks they like that are 'natural' involve a lot of work.
is it normal to be turned off by short guys?
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Women are far more shallow than they'd like to admit.
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I find a hypocrisy with it tbh. I'm gay so this doesn't really affect me, but I do stand on the outside making my little observations...
I genuinely don't think many straight men are seriously that shallow. As a woman, be in reasonable shape, take care of your skin, maybe grow your hair out, most straight men will consider you.
But that makes men "shallow" according to a lot of women.
Some of the very same women - "Well I want him to be 6ft, have a beard, go to the gym and work out far harder than women have to, have a good job, don't be balding... *proceeds to list 10 other things*"
Not saying this is all women and all men, there are women who aren't shallow and men who definitely are, but on the whole I do think women are far pickier than men. And then a lot of them play victim deflecting about how "shallow" men are when men point it out. I'm pretty sure a butthurt woman will call me out and try to argue with me over this very post, but that will just prove my point.
PS - Most pressure on women to look good, be super skinny and plaster makeup all over their faces comes from other women and the fashion industry (run almost exclusively by women and gay men), not from straight men.
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Tall and large-framed women have the same problems. Most men don't want to be with a woman who's bigger than him. Most men don't want an 'unfeminine' woman (muscular, large bone structure, etc...not fat but imposing natural body structure). Even if she's not bigger than him, if she's too unfeminine or manly looking then she's out. A lot of men are put off by a woman having 'masculine' interests, hobbies, or occupations. And tons of men don't want their woman to earn more money than them.
Remember the Seinfeld episode where that woman Jerry dated had 'man hands'?
I think you're giving men wayyyy too much credit here and failing to see the other side. You seem to be imagining this from the perspective of an 'ideal' woman and ignoring the struggles of women outside of that range.
P.S. Try showing up for a date as a woman without shaving most of your body hair, dressing up and spending at least some time on your hair. Men definitely do expect a certain level of maintenance and thanks to porn most expect hairless armpits, legs and privates. No straight woman is shaving her whole lower body for other women, it's because it's generally expected by men. Ask most any woman...not dating/getting laid?...she's probably not shaving. And men don't tend to realize how much effort goes into even a 'natural' appearance. Men like to say they like no make-up but they don't even realize that the looks they like that are 'natural' involve a lot of work.