1)It doesn't work like a normal vaccine, it tells your DNA how to create proteins differently instead of introducing a dead or weak antigen like a normal vaccine. In fact, it legally couldn't be called a vaccine until the law was changed, so it is no longer called 'gene therapy'
2)Legally, it should still be classed as experimental, as it hasn't been in use for long enough to have the long term effects verified as safe. Remember that vaccines have been taken before, experimental, new ones, and had awful side effects. Thalidomide? Narcolepsy?
https://www.sott.net/article/448927-What-Moderna-isnt-telling-us-about-their-new-mRNA-COVID-19-vaccine
Take it if you want, but please be informed first
3) If I am an adult in a low risk group, and other people have the choice to get themselves an experimental vaccine, no one has the right to coerce or force me to get it. I get to choose what risks I take, as an adult. If I want to smoke, I will, want to use a busy highway, I will.
4) Vaccine companies cannot legally be sued or be found liable for side effects of their vaccines. The vaccine liability act (90s) made sure of this. And although modern science has brought a lot of blessings to the world, and so are vaccines, there is money to be made in selling solutions to exaggerated problems, and if patients need to come back for more treatment, there's more money in that.
5) There are often new strains announced, because viruses mutate. Often, they become weaker. But be realistic: for the amount of flu strains and mutations there are and will be, you cannot be protected against them all. Fermented foods, fresh air, good health and exercise will also protect you and prime your immune system. One of the leading causes of death in America is heart failure, and although the death count is exaggerated, less people would be so susceptible to illnesses if they simply made their own meals healthily.
At this point, I see most of you.
You do not care about what is right or wrong, you care about what looks good.
You see a label. 'Anti-masker' or 'conspiracy theorist' and your brain switches away from logic and into fear. You care more about looking like a good citizen than being one, but being a good citizen is looking for the truth, and always speaking up when something is wrong. You let the surface media, funded by a small few people, do the thinking for you, and act within whatever is currently approved of. I am fully vaccinated and I still am proud to say that I am sceptical of the vaccine, and the approach to an exaggerated problem.
I read it all, and you're completely discredited by the fact that you think your gods gift to physchological analysis and have been gifted with the ability to analyse someone over the Internet just because you took a 2 hour psyche workshop and did 10 minutes of research on Yahoo Answers.
I said I see 'most of you', and I believe that, unfortunately, people care more about looking like a good citizen than being one, and it's sad. Not to you in particular, but interpret it that way if you want. You just criticised my words (fair enough) and disproved none of my other points that were numbered about the 'vaccine'.
What? You mean you never learned this technique in debate club? The one where you kick over the podium and call everyone a bunch of chunky shit-fuck cock guzzlers before you present the pertinent data?
So one one hand we have a world renowned group of doctors, experts and epidemiologists all saying one thing.
And on the other hand, we have some weirdo who caboodles on a dog fucker website saying that they are personally qualified to discredit all of modern medicine.
Yeah, again with the strawmanning, along the lines of
'everyone who questions the headlines and the safety of the vaccine thinks bill gates is a lizard and tiny robots are going to infect them!''
and then complain that the person you are discussing with is not debating properly because of what they said about another person. We're not that different.
And no, they're not all saying one thing, but only certain opinions are allowed to be broadcasted by the mainstream media which is funded by a select few people. Otherwise, why would there be such a scrabble to censor and deplatform, under the name of 'fact checking'?
https://i.imgur.com/GkWmYDJ.png
It's not much of a coincidence that the mainstream media broadcasts similar opinion.
I never engaged in a debate with you, so it certainly is not a strawman.
In fact, I'm completely uninterested in debating with you because, as far as I'm concerned, saying you have qualifications on a public online platform is essentially meaningless.
I'm actually a physician.
Oh wait, no I'm not.
See.
I also have no interest in changing your mind. If you chose not to take the vaccine, good for you. More doses available for the rest of the population.
As for making an informed decision, I suppose we all define that differently. I personally only choose to take medical advice from doctors. Not reddit. Not is it normal.
So, not sorry, but go quack anti-vax at someone who cares.
'Most of you' isn't referring to you in particular
And you say that you people who don't want a new vaccine deserve covid, that's already more whinging about people rather than reality and the topic at hand- the safety of a vaccine- which I talked about in detail.
Is it normal to be scared of getting the new vaccine for covid?
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1)It doesn't work like a normal vaccine, it tells your DNA how to create proteins differently instead of introducing a dead or weak antigen like a normal vaccine. In fact, it legally couldn't be called a vaccine until the law was changed, so it is no longer called 'gene therapy'
2)Legally, it should still be classed as experimental, as it hasn't been in use for long enough to have the long term effects verified as safe. Remember that vaccines have been taken before, experimental, new ones, and had awful side effects. Thalidomide? Narcolepsy?
https://www.sott.net/article/448927-What-Moderna-isnt-telling-us-about-their-new-mRNA-COVID-19-vaccine
Take it if you want, but please be informed first
3) If I am an adult in a low risk group, and other people have the choice to get themselves an experimental vaccine, no one has the right to coerce or force me to get it. I get to choose what risks I take, as an adult. If I want to smoke, I will, want to use a busy highway, I will.
4) Vaccine companies cannot legally be sued or be found liable for side effects of their vaccines. The vaccine liability act (90s) made sure of this. And although modern science has brought a lot of blessings to the world, and so are vaccines, there is money to be made in selling solutions to exaggerated problems, and if patients need to come back for more treatment, there's more money in that.
5) There are often new strains announced, because viruses mutate. Often, they become weaker. But be realistic: for the amount of flu strains and mutations there are and will be, you cannot be protected against them all. Fermented foods, fresh air, good health and exercise will also protect you and prime your immune system. One of the leading causes of death in America is heart failure, and although the death count is exaggerated, less people would be so susceptible to illnesses if they simply made their own meals healthily.
At this point, I see most of you.
You do not care about what is right or wrong, you care about what looks good.
You see a label. 'Anti-masker' or 'conspiracy theorist' and your brain switches away from logic and into fear. You care more about looking like a good citizen than being one, but being a good citizen is looking for the truth, and always speaking up when something is wrong. You let the surface media, funded by a small few people, do the thinking for you, and act within whatever is currently approved of. I am fully vaccinated and I still am proud to say that I am sceptical of the vaccine, and the approach to an exaggerated problem.
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I read it all, and you're completely discredited by the fact that you think your gods gift to physchological analysis and have been gifted with the ability to analyse someone over the Internet just because you took a 2 hour psyche workshop and did 10 minutes of research on Yahoo Answers.
No, I don't think you know me at all.
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I said I see 'most of you', and I believe that, unfortunately, people care more about looking like a good citizen than being one, and it's sad. Not to you in particular, but interpret it that way if you want. You just criticised my words (fair enough) and disproved none of my other points that were numbered about the 'vaccine'.
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You personally attacking me in your initial response discredits you completely as a person to debate with.
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What? You mean you never learned this technique in debate club? The one where you kick over the podium and call everyone a bunch of chunky shit-fuck cock guzzlers before you present the pertinent data?
So one one hand we have a world renowned group of doctors, experts and epidemiologists all saying one thing.
And on the other hand, we have some weirdo who caboodles on a dog fucker website saying that they are personally qualified to discredit all of modern medicine.
Who should we believe?
Such a hard choice...
Because of the nanobots
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Yeah, again with the strawmanning, along the lines of
'everyone who questions the headlines and the safety of the vaccine thinks bill gates is a lizard and tiny robots are going to infect them!''
and then complain that the person you are discussing with is not debating properly because of what they said about another person. We're not that different.
And no, they're not all saying one thing, but only certain opinions are allowed to be broadcasted by the mainstream media which is funded by a select few people. Otherwise, why would there be such a scrabble to censor and deplatform, under the name of 'fact checking'?
https://i.imgur.com/GkWmYDJ.png
It's not much of a coincidence that the mainstream media broadcasts similar opinion.
https://www.deblauwetijger.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/Geert-vanden-Bossche-2.pdf
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I never engaged in a debate with you, so it certainly is not a strawman.
In fact, I'm completely uninterested in debating with you because, as far as I'm concerned, saying you have qualifications on a public online platform is essentially meaningless.
I'm actually a physician.
Oh wait, no I'm not.
See.
I also have no interest in changing your mind. If you chose not to take the vaccine, good for you. More doses available for the rest of the population.
As for making an informed decision, I suppose we all define that differently. I personally only choose to take medical advice from doctors. Not reddit. Not is it normal.
So, not sorry, but go quack anti-vax at someone who cares.
'Most of you' isn't referring to you in particular
And you say that you people who don't want a new vaccine deserve covid, that's already more whinging about people rather than reality and the topic at hand- the safety of a vaccine- which I talked about in detail.
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I'm actually an astronaut from the future.