I used to be the a very big religious skeptic. I'm talking, every devout religious person that I met was assaulted by my masterfully articulated arguments against the evils of organized religion and the devastation that it has caused the Earth. I have harrassed many a Catholic, Mormon, Jehovas Witness, Presbyterian, etc.
Now, I am a member of the LDS church with a strong testimony. I am still struggling to CTR so to speak (I'm a college student and I live on caffeine and I still have my old wardrobe, lol), but I am getting there, slowly but surely. I feel a strong fellowship with other Mormons, and what a lot of outsiders don't realize that the more they criticise and attack us for our beliefs and practices (all the while preaching tolerance, ha!), the stronger our fellowship becomes.
What gets me the most about the Mormon church is how strong the bond is between it's members. Every Sunday we gather for sacrament and it is just so spiritually fulfilling to be reminded that I am not the only person putting up with crap for my beliefs. Sure, the missionaries can be over-enthusiatic and sure, the church has done some shitty things. But I don't worship the church, I don't worship the missionaries, I don't worship the church officials, I worship God. Every organization has it's jerks. Church jerks just tend to be among the most annoying =/
Anyone that has participated in anything greater than themselves can tell you that there will always be nay-sayers. Hell, even the civil rights movement was criticised to death. For every good in the world, there will be someone against it. Many people dislike our religion, it is a given. If someone dislikes you for your religion, they are prejudiced. So don't worry about them.
So I vote normal. Just so long as you are not walking around with your nose in the air thinking that you need to convert everyone. George Albert Smith said it best that trying to make people believe in something is very ineffective. Many Mormons get very prideful of their knowing of "the truth" when in reality there is truth within every religion and every man should be able to worship (or not worship) as he pleases. That is within our articles of faith. If you really listen to the teachings, and you really understand the words that you are taught, then you don't have a problem with non-LDS folk as far as our beliefs go. Not saying they won't have a problem with what you do in your spare time though XD
A very 'nice' speech, but unfortunately wrong. It is unfortunate that you were on the right track, but fell into the trap of religion because all of us have an inherent need for a sense of belonging. Why does our society usually make it a prerequisite to belong to either a religion or a criminal organization to fulfill this need?
I don't feel that I could ever be part of your world, because you have labeled me an "outsider".
The problem with ALL Christian religions, is that they are all based on the Bible. The Bible has been proven over and over again, to be scientifically and historically inaccurate. Instead of Christians accepting these facts, they instead come up with some 'crazy' ideas, in order to perpetuate this Myth. What about the so-called 'good' teachings in the Bible? If you really read it, it says that women should be second-class subordinates, we should have slavery and we should be perpetually subjugated by monarchs.
The "truth" that you speak of, is unfortunately not true. The creatures that you "worship" are very upset with you. They regard prayer as an insult. It is not only an insult to them, but it is also an insult to yourself. They recommend quiet reflection at an appropriate time and place. They frown on ritualistic behaviour.
This Earth is in trouble. We are heading headlong on a path towards Global Extinction. Our main problem is overpopulation. Your chuch is still advocating that we should continue to breed uncontrollably. Further, the church itself is a waste of resources and time. We have some very serious problems to solve. What has your church done to help solve these?
I'm not going to sit here and disagree with you, I beleve everything you say and I have been on that side of the fence. I understand the need for belonging, I really do, but if that was my problem I'd have found something long before I set foot in a church. I'm not going to sit here and say that the bible is word for word true, but there is a truth that every religion has to offer, and I find the the practice of the Mormon church best suits what I find to be an ideal lifestyle. I was raised in a conservative household, and I could have chosen any other church, I have been to many others, but this church most closely suits my ideal of what a church should be.
I guess I could say that I grew a fascination with spirituality around the time that I "discovered" the Mormon church and it has proven to be the best venue.
Is it normal to be LDS (Mormon)
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I used to be the a very big religious skeptic. I'm talking, every devout religious person that I met was assaulted by my masterfully articulated arguments against the evils of organized religion and the devastation that it has caused the Earth. I have harrassed many a Catholic, Mormon, Jehovas Witness, Presbyterian, etc.
Now, I am a member of the LDS church with a strong testimony. I am still struggling to CTR so to speak (I'm a college student and I live on caffeine and I still have my old wardrobe, lol), but I am getting there, slowly but surely. I feel a strong fellowship with other Mormons, and what a lot of outsiders don't realize that the more they criticise and attack us for our beliefs and practices (all the while preaching tolerance, ha!), the stronger our fellowship becomes.
What gets me the most about the Mormon church is how strong the bond is between it's members. Every Sunday we gather for sacrament and it is just so spiritually fulfilling to be reminded that I am not the only person putting up with crap for my beliefs. Sure, the missionaries can be over-enthusiatic and sure, the church has done some shitty things. But I don't worship the church, I don't worship the missionaries, I don't worship the church officials, I worship God. Every organization has it's jerks. Church jerks just tend to be among the most annoying =/
Anyone that has participated in anything greater than themselves can tell you that there will always be nay-sayers. Hell, even the civil rights movement was criticised to death. For every good in the world, there will be someone against it. Many people dislike our religion, it is a given. If someone dislikes you for your religion, they are prejudiced. So don't worry about them.
So I vote normal. Just so long as you are not walking around with your nose in the air thinking that you need to convert everyone. George Albert Smith said it best that trying to make people believe in something is very ineffective. Many Mormons get very prideful of their knowing of "the truth" when in reality there is truth within every religion and every man should be able to worship (or not worship) as he pleases. That is within our articles of faith. If you really listen to the teachings, and you really understand the words that you are taught, then you don't have a problem with non-LDS folk as far as our beliefs go. Not saying they won't have a problem with what you do in your spare time though XD
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A very 'nice' speech, but unfortunately wrong. It is unfortunate that you were on the right track, but fell into the trap of religion because all of us have an inherent need for a sense of belonging. Why does our society usually make it a prerequisite to belong to either a religion or a criminal organization to fulfill this need?
I don't feel that I could ever be part of your world, because you have labeled me an "outsider".
The problem with ALL Christian religions, is that they are all based on the Bible. The Bible has been proven over and over again, to be scientifically and historically inaccurate. Instead of Christians accepting these facts, they instead come up with some 'crazy' ideas, in order to perpetuate this Myth. What about the so-called 'good' teachings in the Bible? If you really read it, it says that women should be second-class subordinates, we should have slavery and we should be perpetually subjugated by monarchs.
The "truth" that you speak of, is unfortunately not true. The creatures that you "worship" are very upset with you. They regard prayer as an insult. It is not only an insult to them, but it is also an insult to yourself. They recommend quiet reflection at an appropriate time and place. They frown on ritualistic behaviour.
This Earth is in trouble. We are heading headlong on a path towards Global Extinction. Our main problem is overpopulation. Your chuch is still advocating that we should continue to breed uncontrollably. Further, the church itself is a waste of resources and time. We have some very serious problems to solve. What has your church done to help solve these?
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I'm not going to sit here and disagree with you, I beleve everything you say and I have been on that side of the fence. I understand the need for belonging, I really do, but if that was my problem I'd have found something long before I set foot in a church. I'm not going to sit here and say that the bible is word for word true, but there is a truth that every religion has to offer, and I find the the practice of the Mormon church best suits what I find to be an ideal lifestyle. I was raised in a conservative household, and I could have chosen any other church, I have been to many others, but this church most closely suits my ideal of what a church should be.
I guess I could say that I grew a fascination with spirituality around the time that I "discovered" the Mormon church and it has proven to be the best venue.
So cool to hear your story! And I agree. I grew up in this church, and it is still tempting to wear a bikini, LOL.
You are Mormon? Honestly I didn't see that one coming. :)