I watched this video earlier and I am skeptical about it purely based on how I have lived in numerous areas, been in public spaces while walking and being behind and infront of women for long periods of times due to the direction we were both going, and yet not seen this happen once.
Not saying stuff like this doesn't happen but I think that the portrayal of this happening as frequently as it claims is just...Well, deserving of skepticism. I personally think I and others should do this experiment themselves with a woman they know just to be sure.
I also think a lot of what was in this video wasn't necessarily bad. People saying "Hey, how are you doing" and "Hey, nice day" and so on or whatever was said along those lines in the video. Even if those were ways just to initiate a discussion with someone they find attractive, it was done in a respectable manner. Obviously there were those that crossed that line in the video, though. Some of them were beyond creepy.
I've asked a few women I know and are friends with, or some in comments if they have experienced such things in their day to day lives and most have said no, which just adds to my skepticism of the validity of this video.
This has happened to me. The reason why "hey" and "how are you doing" counts as harassment is simply because I know what happens when I actually acknowledge these spontaneous invites to chat : They ask me our, ask for my number or something along those lines and quite frankly it's annoying and gives me discomfort because a lot of these guys cannot take no for an answer and it's stressful.
I also think that it may be different depending on the girl in question and where she lives. No, it doesn't happen all day everyday but it sure does happen far too frequently ( My outfit varies from skirts to fully clothed)
I don't think that counts as harassment or that leading to asking for a number. If they persist after saying no or then jump to insults due to it, then I will agree. I've had it happen to me from time to time and wouldn't consider it harassment other than when it turned out into insults or so on for saying no, though.
Just because something feels like harassment does not mean it is. Yes, things can escalate if said no, just as many perfectly acceptable things can escalate. I have dealt with what you're explaining myself but I wouldn't take it as a reason to brand something as harassment just because it may lead to those situations.
I can't really agree that it's the standard in my experience of seeing rejected guys, but meh.
Different countries, different gender and different opinions so,meh.
Though I must say that if someone FEELS harassed his or her thoughts and feelings shouldn't be dismissed.
I guess men in general must learn to sense when their contact is welcome and when it's not. And females need to not judge all men as potential rapists- Sadly it's hard to avoid.
I don't know how being a different gender would have any difference. I have dealt with sexual harassment myself and the things in this topic you would say is harasment that I wouldn't.
If someone feels harassed from someone's comments or initiationof discussion then they should express that they do not want to be told such things or talk to them. If they continue to give comments or try talk to them then I would say that is harassment.
Is it normal to be harrassed on the street because you are a woman?
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I watched this video earlier and I am skeptical about it purely based on how I have lived in numerous areas, been in public spaces while walking and being behind and infront of women for long periods of times due to the direction we were both going, and yet not seen this happen once.
Not saying stuff like this doesn't happen but I think that the portrayal of this happening as frequently as it claims is just...Well, deserving of skepticism. I personally think I and others should do this experiment themselves with a woman they know just to be sure.
I also think a lot of what was in this video wasn't necessarily bad. People saying "Hey, how are you doing" and "Hey, nice day" and so on or whatever was said along those lines in the video. Even if those were ways just to initiate a discussion with someone they find attractive, it was done in a respectable manner. Obviously there were those that crossed that line in the video, though. Some of them were beyond creepy.
I've asked a few women I know and are friends with, or some in comments if they have experienced such things in their day to day lives and most have said no, which just adds to my skepticism of the validity of this video.
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This has happened to me. The reason why "hey" and "how are you doing" counts as harassment is simply because I know what happens when I actually acknowledge these spontaneous invites to chat : They ask me our, ask for my number or something along those lines and quite frankly it's annoying and gives me discomfort because a lot of these guys cannot take no for an answer and it's stressful.
I also think that it may be different depending on the girl in question and where she lives. No, it doesn't happen all day everyday but it sure does happen far too frequently ( My outfit varies from skirts to fully clothed)
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I don't think that counts as harassment or that leading to asking for a number. If they persist after saying no or then jump to insults due to it, then I will agree. I've had it happen to me from time to time and wouldn't consider it harassment other than when it turned out into insults or so on for saying no, though.
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Well, it FEELS like harassment if you know that more often than not saying no leads to a difficult situation for you if you follow me here?
Then, of course, it's wrong to judge everyone but when this is the standard it's hard to not feel uneasy about things like this.
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Just because something feels like harassment does not mean it is. Yes, things can escalate if said no, just as many perfectly acceptable things can escalate. I have dealt with what you're explaining myself but I wouldn't take it as a reason to brand something as harassment just because it may lead to those situations.
I can't really agree that it's the standard in my experience of seeing rejected guys, but meh.
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Different countries, different gender and different opinions so,meh.
Though I must say that if someone FEELS harassed his or her thoughts and feelings shouldn't be dismissed.
I guess men in general must learn to sense when their contact is welcome and when it's not. And females need to not judge all men as potential rapists- Sadly it's hard to avoid.
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I don't know how being a different gender would have any difference. I have dealt with sexual harassment myself and the things in this topic you would say is harasment that I wouldn't.
If someone feels harassed from someone's comments or initiationof discussion then they should express that they do not want to be told such things or talk to them. If they continue to give comments or try talk to them then I would say that is harassment.