I don't know if this clears things up, but one of the reasons many feminists use the term "feminism" is because most of the root causes of problems that both men and women face come from the fact that civilization used to be overwhelmingly patriarchal. Things that were masculine were seen as superior to anything feminine.
For example, men commit suicide more often than women because asking for help is seen as feminine and it makes them weak. You see this in our culture all the time. We tell people that they're being a "sissy" if they're not strong or tell people that they're "fighting like a girl". At the end of the day, we as a society need to remove the idea that feminine is less, that people who are masculine can't exhibit feminine traits without being weak, and perhaps abolish the ideology that asking for help and communicating is feminine at all.
I personally see myself as a feminist, but most of my work in gender-based activism has been awareness about how men face mental health issues and sexual abuse. It annoys me that most people approach me and assume I don't work with men at all.
Sometimes. Have you ever seen a situation where someone, for example, is playing pool badly and someone else comments that they "play like a girl"? Pool has nothing to do with physical strength or biology. Also, just because a group of people can't do something as well doesn't mean that they're bad at it. Feminine additionally does not equal lesser because all forms of strength are not physical.
I concede, however. Does my point not still stand with that point aside?
physical strength, and pool is HITTING a ball, is it not? i also have to argue that men are stronger mentally too. men may not be smarter than women, women may not be smarter than men, but men can take action on their ideas. who took us to the moon?
Have you ever played pool? If you have a normal functioning arm you're completely fine, and if anyone ever hits the ball with their full physical strength they're more likely to miss. You spend most of the game tapping the pool balls.
The "stronger mentally" thing is full-on sexism. Men took us to the moon in the 60s. Are you aware of the disadvantages that women faced in the 60s or do I honestly have to give you a history lesson? Both men and women are on equal footing in terms of mental strength. The fact that you even said that in the year 2018 is why feminism needs to exist.
Jokes aside, let's look at our current world for an answer to your question. In some areas of the middle east, women can't go outside with skin showing. In certain areas of Africa, female babies are having their clitoris removed because female pleasure is devilish. In the progressive United States of America, many men proclaimed that Hillary Clinton (a seventy year old woman) couldn't possibly be president because of mood swings regarding her period. I'm currently listening to you tell me that men are more mentally capable of putting their ideas into action. This is why so many leaders of countries are men- blatant sexism.
Let's step away from war. Do you know how much mental strength it takes to watch your husband sleep with various women and stand by because you know divorce in your country is illegal? Do you know how much mental strength it takes to watch your parents marry you away at eleven and stay silent for survival? Do you know how much mental strength it takes to be sexually abused and have dozens of people tell you how its your fault because your dress is an inch too short? Do you know how much mental strength it takes to raise a family, to carry keys like claws in your fist while some random guy follows you home? Do you know how much mental strength it takes to march for your right to vote because your husband doesn't even see you as equal? Don't answer. Because you don't. You are a child. I hope you still have time to grow, because this was a disappointing show of why you not only need someone to nurture you, but why you STILL need feminism despite the fact that you don't understand it.
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I don't know if this clears things up, but one of the reasons many feminists use the term "feminism" is because most of the root causes of problems that both men and women face come from the fact that civilization used to be overwhelmingly patriarchal. Things that were masculine were seen as superior to anything feminine.
For example, men commit suicide more often than women because asking for help is seen as feminine and it makes them weak. You see this in our culture all the time. We tell people that they're being a "sissy" if they're not strong or tell people that they're "fighting like a girl". At the end of the day, we as a society need to remove the idea that feminine is less, that people who are masculine can't exhibit feminine traits without being weak, and perhaps abolish the ideology that asking for help and communicating is feminine at all.
I personally see myself as a feminist, but most of my work in gender-based activism has been awareness about how men face mental health issues and sexual abuse. It annoys me that most people approach me and assume I don't work with men at all.
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fighting like a girl means you're fighting weak because men are biologically stronger, and are required to be stronger than women
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Sometimes. Have you ever seen a situation where someone, for example, is playing pool badly and someone else comments that they "play like a girl"? Pool has nothing to do with physical strength or biology. Also, just because a group of people can't do something as well doesn't mean that they're bad at it. Feminine additionally does not equal lesser because all forms of strength are not physical.
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physical strength, and pool is HITTING a ball, is it not? i also have to argue that men are stronger mentally too. men may not be smarter than women, women may not be smarter than men, but men can take action on their ideas. who took us to the moon?
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explain them pool chicks on espn then
theyre somea the best in the world
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i dont watch pool lol. that first thing i said about pool doesnt really matter
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well then dont fuckin bring it up if it dont matter
its an execution game not a physical sport ie dexterity over strength
Have you ever played pool? If you have a normal functioning arm you're completely fine, and if anyone ever hits the ball with their full physical strength they're more likely to miss. You spend most of the game tapping the pool balls.
The "stronger mentally" thing is full-on sexism. Men took us to the moon in the 60s. Are you aware of the disadvantages that women faced in the 60s or do I honestly have to give you a history lesson? Both men and women are on equal footing in terms of mental strength. The fact that you even said that in the year 2018 is why feminism needs to exist.
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why are so many leaders of countries men? men were and are the main fighters of wars, and it takes a lot of mental strength to kill people. etc etc
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I'm laughing. THAT'S your retort?
Jokes aside, let's look at our current world for an answer to your question. In some areas of the middle east, women can't go outside with skin showing. In certain areas of Africa, female babies are having their clitoris removed because female pleasure is devilish. In the progressive United States of America, many men proclaimed that Hillary Clinton (a seventy year old woman) couldn't possibly be president because of mood swings regarding her period. I'm currently listening to you tell me that men are more mentally capable of putting their ideas into action. This is why so many leaders of countries are men- blatant sexism.
Let's step away from war. Do you know how much mental strength it takes to watch your husband sleep with various women and stand by because you know divorce in your country is illegal? Do you know how much mental strength it takes to watch your parents marry you away at eleven and stay silent for survival? Do you know how much mental strength it takes to be sexually abused and have dozens of people tell you how its your fault because your dress is an inch too short? Do you know how much mental strength it takes to raise a family, to carry keys like claws in your fist while some random guy follows you home? Do you know how much mental strength it takes to march for your right to vote because your husband doesn't even see you as equal? Don't answer. Because you don't. You are a child. I hope you still have time to grow, because this was a disappointing show of why you not only need someone to nurture you, but why you STILL need feminism despite the fact that you don't understand it.
Not the best example.