Is It Normal that U.S. Americans are obese?

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  • No, stop. You are actually legitimately straw-manning. What OP is saying is that low-quality food is superior to no food at all. Garbage is not low-quality food. To argue that bread is garbage is not very intelligent. And yes, I'm sure the people with no food would rather eat garbage than nothing.

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    • Okay, you have a legitimate point. But, the OP has framed the issue around the American food industry which affects Americans at all income levels. Homeless nutrition has a different set of constraints.

      So getting back to the broader topic, what would you, the Clunkman, think about a tax on sugar and a huge tax on HFCS (high fructose corn syrup)?

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      • I remember seeing something about some states doing that. It struck me as idiotic. I don't think that anything should be taxed more than anything else; there should be one sales tax, and that's it.

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        • Interesting. No liquor taxes, no tobacco taxes, not even marijuana taxes, or prostitution taxes. What about tax on slippery condoms for homos, and vibrating dildos? Shouldn't sinners be financially discouraged? (I have no position on this issue, and ask in the spirit of curiosity.).

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          • In a perfect country, the citizenry would not purchase any sinful objects, so nothing of the sort would be needed. I know, however, that we live in a fallen world, and that people will buy those products. Theoretically, in a perfectly moral country, those objects would be totally banned, at penalty of deportation.

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            • @ Chink42
              Deportation? What? You a racist?

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              • No, what I am suggesting has nothing to do with race; it is related to actions within a country. I suppose a better term to use would be "exile". Also, deportation is not inherently racist. If you enter a country that you are not legally allowed to be in, according to that country's laws, the country is able to legally throw you back out again, according to that country's laws. If you think that's a racist concept, that's your problem.

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            • So if I understand this correctly, you don't give a fuck. You're going to heaven. Sinners in this fallen world deserve no courtesy and should be guilted by righteous people until they feel wretched. Sin taxes are unnecessary.

              Does this summarize your opinion?

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              • No. What I am suggesting is simply this: if someone chooses to live in sin, that is their decision, and they should be allowed to do that. However, according to what Paul has said, those who choose to live in sin should live separately from those who do not. Theoretically, every religion should have its own country where the people who follow that religion live and follow the rules of said religion.

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    • I am not. The OP said do not complain about these conditions as though its what everyone deserves. Saying accept your fate as its all you are going to get is fucked up. Have some decency. You clearly do not care for lower class but it doesn't mean they are all in human. You are a classist

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      • You're straw-manning even worse this time. No one said that the poor should accept their fate as being poor at all. OP has not suggested once that the poor have no right to complain. OP has said that getting low-quality food is far better than getting no food; that is what OP has said.

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      • Is English your first language? Because maybe you are misunderstanding something i or others have said. Having English as a 2nd or 3rd language we will forgive you for that. Other tnan that - Strawman.
        I am as far from classist as they come.

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        • No English is my first and I am not apologizing for pionting out your classist attitude.

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