And you sound kinda like an asshole, Im not sure what you mean by pc unless we're talking about computers here, but anyone who knows me can attest to my lack of douchebaggery. In fact I was doing just the opposite by telling someone not to be a douche by calling another person mentally defective.
If you're gonna insult me at least do it right, call me a bleeding heart or some shit. That would make more sense. ;P
And I dont think equal rights advocacy makes me a douchebag or overly sensitive; fact of the matter is I know quite a few mentally and physically handicapped individuals and it rubs me the wrong way when they're dehumanized and misunderstood.
The child was not dehumanized. Defective means not working up to full potential. Can this be said about the mind of a mental retarded person? Absolutely. It is not their fault or their choice to be born mentally retarded but it cannot be denied that their mind does not work properly. Otherwise, why would their condition have a name, or why would they be educated in separate classes from other children in school?
Defective is a little bit of a rude term, but for heaven's sake, there is no need to attack the OP.
A mentally retarded child has no place in an area with dangerous machinery that can harm and kill other human beings, despite how much the father wanted to make his son happy. There is never an excuse to endanger the lives of others.
If you would care to note in my first post, and all my successive posts I stated it was irresponsible to let the kid operate machinery, of course. But if the father had been more responsible and made special arrangements, as per special needs children, no accidents need to have occured.
As you can also note in my previous comments I have become rather closely tied to the disability rights movement; and I meant to be outspoken, not inflammatory. Thank you for being polite, I tend to get a little bit snappish once the argument degrades to insults. And to my ears, calling another person defective is dehumanizing in that it could easily make one with a disability feel that way, as though they're on a lower level than we are. It's like calling a kid in a wheelchair broken; it may go over ok in the right company, but said in the wrong place or at the wrong time, it could be devastating.
My bfs brother has a hard time communicating because of his palsy and he's been through some shit for it; so I hope you can understand my position a bit better here
Okay first of all, everyone knows that P.C. stands for Politically Correct when refering to issues of equal rights.<BR><BR>Second of all, I never said the guy should be treated like a second class citizen just because he is mentally handicapped. <BR><BR>What I meant was is that people like you who like to ignore an entire story just because it wasn't politically correct are also the problem because you want to make it so people who are different should get preferential treatment above "normal" people to make a level playing field for everyone but in the end it is still unequal because one group is getting preferential treatment over the other.
If you paid attention to my post, I said it was fucking irresponsible of the father to let the kid drive. He shouldnt get special treatment and I never said that, simply that he should get to do what every other kid does, which is go to work with their parents. They just should have kept him out of the way of fucking shit up.
And I didnt know that, sorry. I dont like to abbreviate shit so I usually dont pay attention to that. o.o
IIN that my colleague brought his mentally handicapped son to work?
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You sound like some overly sencetive pc douchebag.
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Don't feel threatened by those who are more intelligent than you. Unlike you, they have the intelligence to do the right thing.
And you sound kinda like an asshole, Im not sure what you mean by pc unless we're talking about computers here, but anyone who knows me can attest to my lack of douchebaggery. In fact I was doing just the opposite by telling someone not to be a douche by calling another person mentally defective.
If you're gonna insult me at least do it right, call me a bleeding heart or some shit. That would make more sense. ;P
And I dont think equal rights advocacy makes me a douchebag or overly sensitive; fact of the matter is I know quite a few mentally and physically handicapped individuals and it rubs me the wrong way when they're dehumanized and misunderstood.
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PC = politically correct.
The child was not dehumanized. Defective means not working up to full potential. Can this be said about the mind of a mental retarded person? Absolutely. It is not their fault or their choice to be born mentally retarded but it cannot be denied that their mind does not work properly. Otherwise, why would their condition have a name, or why would they be educated in separate classes from other children in school?
Defective is a little bit of a rude term, but for heaven's sake, there is no need to attack the OP.
A mentally retarded child has no place in an area with dangerous machinery that can harm and kill other human beings, despite how much the father wanted to make his son happy. There is never an excuse to endanger the lives of others.
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If you would care to note in my first post, and all my successive posts I stated it was irresponsible to let the kid operate machinery, of course. But if the father had been more responsible and made special arrangements, as per special needs children, no accidents need to have occured.
As you can also note in my previous comments I have become rather closely tied to the disability rights movement; and I meant to be outspoken, not inflammatory. Thank you for being polite, I tend to get a little bit snappish once the argument degrades to insults. And to my ears, calling another person defective is dehumanizing in that it could easily make one with a disability feel that way, as though they're on a lower level than we are. It's like calling a kid in a wheelchair broken; it may go over ok in the right company, but said in the wrong place or at the wrong time, it could be devastating.
My bfs brother has a hard time communicating because of his palsy and he's been through some shit for it; so I hope you can understand my position a bit better here
Okay first of all, everyone knows that P.C. stands for Politically Correct when refering to issues of equal rights.<BR><BR>Second of all, I never said the guy should be treated like a second class citizen just because he is mentally handicapped. <BR><BR>What I meant was is that people like you who like to ignore an entire story just because it wasn't politically correct are also the problem because you want to make it so people who are different should get preferential treatment above "normal" people to make a level playing field for everyone but in the end it is still unequal because one group is getting preferential treatment over the other.
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If you paid attention to my post, I said it was fucking irresponsible of the father to let the kid drive. He shouldnt get special treatment and I never said that, simply that he should get to do what every other kid does, which is go to work with their parents. They just should have kept him out of the way of fucking shit up.
And I didnt know that, sorry. I dont like to abbreviate shit so I usually dont pay attention to that. o.o
*sensitive
But, yeah..I agree with you completely, chicken471bologna.