Nope, I've looked at the laws. You can watch/stream millions of hours of child porn perfectly legally. It's the downloading/possession of even a minute of child porn on your hard drive where the government draws the line.
And like you already said, it's like drugs. It isn't illegal to do drugs, it's illegal to possess those drugs. It isn't illegal to watch and masturbate to child porn, it's illegal to actually have a copy on your hard drive that you can view without the internet.
I've got a horrible feeling he's right. Governments set guidelines for what is illegal, not what is legal. No wonder it's so hard to find conclusive evidence.
I can't find any evidence for bathing in ketchup being legal, doesn't mean it's illegal. ;)
On a serious note, if you do find anything conclusive about the streaming thing, please post it, I'd like to know.
I don't have any interest in getting my boyfriend in trouble with the law, so to me this is irrelevant. Its really a moral issue for me. There are a lot of laws I don't agree with. I don't really think my boyfriend should be jailed for just looking at some pictures online, however I also don't think I really want to be intimate with someone who looks at that kind of material.
Even if it IS a crime you don't think he should be jailed? Even though his actions contribute to the demand and subsequent production of photos which are made by exploiting children?
It is very difficult to find. It doesn't appear to be illegal to simply view it everywhere but it is in some places.
Washington state says,
(1) A person who intentionally views over the internet visual or printed matter depicting a minor engaged in sexually explicit conduct as defined in RCW 9.68A.011(4) (a) through (e) is guilty of viewing depictions of a minor engaged in sexually explicit conduct in the first degree, a class B felony punishable under chapter 9A.20 RCW.
(2) A person who intentionally views over the internet visual or printed matter depicting a minor engaged in sexually explicit conduct as defined in RCW 9.68A.011(4) (f) or (g) is guilty of viewing depictions of a minor engaged in sexually explicit conduct in the second degree, a class C felony punishable under chapter 9A.20 RCW.
(3) For the purposes of determining whether a person intentionally viewed over the internet a visual or printed matter depicting a minor engaged in sexually explicit conduct in subsection (1) or (2) of this section, the trier of fact shall consider the title, text, and content of the visual or printed matter, as well as the internet history, search terms, thumbnail images, downloading activity, expert computer forensic testimony, number of visual or printed matter depicting minors engaged in sexually explicit conduct, defendant's access to and control over the electronic device and its contents upon which the visual or printed matter was found, or any other relevant evidence. The state must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the viewing was initiated by the user of the computer where the viewing occurred.
(4) For the purposes of this section, each separate internet session of intentionally viewing over the internet visual or printed matter depicting a minor engaged in sexually explicit conduct constitutes a separate offense.
-SO- the conclusion is, it may or may not be legal depending on what state you live in.
Yes, states have the authority to change their own laws, make drugs legal, make harmless plants illegal, make weird ass laws no one knows about etc. I was more referring to the standard U.S. law that the federal government states. And in places like Oregon, New York, and Georgia, where they ruled that it is only illegal once you PURPOSELY download a copy. <a href="http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2011/01/oregon_supreme_court_rules_that_simply_viewing_child_pornography_on_the_internet_isnt_illegal.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-new...</a>
http://www.bernardbrody.com/the-debate-continues-is-the-mere-viewing-of-child-pornography-illegal/
Hmmm, that's interesting. Well done for finding that, I couldn't find anything!
In a way it makes sense that its not well known, it's probably best that most people think its illegal even if its not. One has to wonder why it isn't illegal everywhere though. Very concerning indeed!
Thanks for getting back to me :)
Is it normal that my boyfriend was looking at pictures of child porn?
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Nope, I've looked at the laws. You can watch/stream millions of hours of child porn perfectly legally. It's the downloading/possession of even a minute of child porn on your hard drive where the government draws the line.
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Nope. I have better things to do than prove something so trivial to someone that I already spent time to look into for myself before.
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And like you already said, it's like drugs. It isn't illegal to do drugs, it's illegal to possess those drugs. It isn't illegal to watch and masturbate to child porn, it's illegal to actually have a copy on your hard drive that you can view without the internet.
I've got a horrible feeling he's right. Governments set guidelines for what is illegal, not what is legal. No wonder it's so hard to find conclusive evidence.
I can't find any evidence for bathing in ketchup being legal, doesn't mean it's illegal. ;)
On a serious note, if you do find anything conclusive about the streaming thing, please post it, I'd like to know.
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I don't have any interest in getting my boyfriend in trouble with the law, so to me this is irrelevant. Its really a moral issue for me. There are a lot of laws I don't agree with. I don't really think my boyfriend should be jailed for just looking at some pictures online, however I also don't think I really want to be intimate with someone who looks at that kind of material.
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Even if it IS a crime you don't think he should be jailed? Even though his actions contribute to the demand and subsequent production of photos which are made by exploiting children?
MORALS?
It is very difficult to find. It doesn't appear to be illegal to simply view it everywhere but it is in some places.
Washington state says,
(1) A person who intentionally views over the internet visual or printed matter depicting a minor engaged in sexually explicit conduct as defined in RCW 9.68A.011(4) (a) through (e) is guilty of viewing depictions of a minor engaged in sexually explicit conduct in the first degree, a class B felony punishable under chapter 9A.20 RCW.
(2) A person who intentionally views over the internet visual or printed matter depicting a minor engaged in sexually explicit conduct as defined in RCW 9.68A.011(4) (f) or (g) is guilty of viewing depictions of a minor engaged in sexually explicit conduct in the second degree, a class C felony punishable under chapter 9A.20 RCW.
(3) For the purposes of determining whether a person intentionally viewed over the internet a visual or printed matter depicting a minor engaged in sexually explicit conduct in subsection (1) or (2) of this section, the trier of fact shall consider the title, text, and content of the visual or printed matter, as well as the internet history, search terms, thumbnail images, downloading activity, expert computer forensic testimony, number of visual or printed matter depicting minors engaged in sexually explicit conduct, defendant's access to and control over the electronic device and its contents upon which the visual or printed matter was found, or any other relevant evidence. The state must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the viewing was initiated by the user of the computer where the viewing occurred.
(4) For the purposes of this section, each separate internet session of intentionally viewing over the internet visual or printed matter depicting a minor engaged in sexually explicit conduct constitutes a separate offense.
-SO- the conclusion is, it may or may not be legal depending on what state you live in.
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Yes, states have the authority to change their own laws, make drugs legal, make harmless plants illegal, make weird ass laws no one knows about etc. I was more referring to the standard U.S. law that the federal government states. And in places like Oregon, New York, and Georgia, where they ruled that it is only illegal once you PURPOSELY download a copy. <a href="http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2011/01/oregon_supreme_court_rules_that_simply_viewing_child_pornography_on_the_internet_isnt_illegal.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-new...</a>
http://www.bernardbrody.com/the-debate-continues-is-the-mere-viewing-of-child-pornography-illegal/
Hmmm, that's interesting. Well done for finding that, I couldn't find anything!
In a way it makes sense that its not well known, it's probably best that most people think its illegal even if its not. One has to wonder why it isn't illegal everywhere though. Very concerning indeed!
Thanks for getting back to me :)