Nope, I've looked at the laws. You can watch/stream millions of hours of child porn perfectly legally. It's the downloading/possession of even a minute of child porn on your hard drive where the government draws the line.
And like you already said, it's like drugs. It isn't illegal to do drugs, it's illegal to possess those drugs. It isn't illegal to watch and masturbate to child porn, it's illegal to actually have a copy on your hard drive that you can view without the internet.
I've got a horrible feeling he's right. Governments set guidelines for what is illegal, not what is legal. No wonder it's so hard to find conclusive evidence.
I can't find any evidence for bathing in ketchup being legal, doesn't mean it's illegal. ;)
On a serious note, if you do find anything conclusive about the streaming thing, please post it, I'd like to know.
I don't have any interest in getting my boyfriend in trouble with the law, so to me this is irrelevant. Its really a moral issue for me. There are a lot of laws I don't agree with. I don't really think my boyfriend should be jailed for just looking at some pictures online, however I also don't think I really want to be intimate with someone who looks at that kind of material.
It is very difficult to find. It doesn't appear to be illegal to simply view it everywhere but it is in some places.
Washington state says,
(1) A person who intentionally views over the internet visual or printed matter depicting a minor engaged in sexually explicit conduct as defined in RCW 9.68A.011(4) (a) through (e) is guilty of viewing depictions of a minor engaged in sexually explicit conduct in the first degree, a class B felony punishable under chapter 9A.20 RCW.
(2) A person who intentionally views over the internet visual or printed matter depicting a minor engaged in sexually explicit conduct as defined in RCW 9.68A.011(4) (f) or (g) is guilty of viewing depictions of a minor engaged in sexually explicit conduct in the second degree, a class C felony punishable under chapter 9A.20 RCW.
(3) For the purposes of determining whether a person intentionally viewed over the internet a visual or printed matter depicting a minor engaged in sexually explicit conduct in subsection (1) or (2) of this section, the trier of fact shall consider the title, text, and content of the visual or printed matter, as well as the internet history, search terms, thumbnail images, downloading activity, expert computer forensic testimony, number of visual or printed matter depicting minors engaged in sexually explicit conduct, defendant's access to and control over the electronic device and its contents upon which the visual or printed matter was found, or any other relevant evidence. The state must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the viewing was initiated by the user of the computer where the viewing occurred.
(4) For the purposes of this section, each separate internet session of intentionally viewing over the internet visual or printed matter depicting a minor engaged in sexually explicit conduct constitutes a separate offense.
-SO- the conclusion is, it may or may not be legal depending on what state you live in.
From the information I can gather, it seems its legal to view online images in the US. But I'm struggling to find confirmation. It's a greyer area than one would think.
It's probably similar to drugs. It's not illegal to do cocaine but everything else along the journey to using it is illegal so it's not necessary to make a law saying you can't get high on it. By viewing child porn you're probably breaking existing laws related to possession, transmission or promotion so it doesn't seem necessary to outlaw viewing it specifically.
You're probably right, but such presumptions aren't facts. Neither you or I know for fact, that it's illegal to view child porn on an online browser, despite us both being aware of what common sense suggests. Until I know for certain, I won't make the presumption.
Is it normal that my boyfriend was looking at pictures of child porn?
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I'm sure the law accounts for such transmissions between computers.
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Nope, I've looked at the laws. You can watch/stream millions of hours of child porn perfectly legally. It's the downloading/possession of even a minute of child porn on your hard drive where the government draws the line.
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Can you link this information?
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Nope. I have better things to do than prove something so trivial to someone that I already spent time to look into for myself before.
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I doubt you on both counts.
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And like you already said, it's like drugs. It isn't illegal to do drugs, it's illegal to possess those drugs. It isn't illegal to watch and masturbate to child porn, it's illegal to actually have a copy on your hard drive that you can view without the internet.
I've got a horrible feeling he's right. Governments set guidelines for what is illegal, not what is legal. No wonder it's so hard to find conclusive evidence.
I can't find any evidence for bathing in ketchup being legal, doesn't mean it's illegal. ;)
On a serious note, if you do find anything conclusive about the streaming thing, please post it, I'd like to know.
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I don't have any interest in getting my boyfriend in trouble with the law, so to me this is irrelevant. Its really a moral issue for me. There are a lot of laws I don't agree with. I don't really think my boyfriend should be jailed for just looking at some pictures online, however I also don't think I really want to be intimate with someone who looks at that kind of material.
It is very difficult to find. It doesn't appear to be illegal to simply view it everywhere but it is in some places.
Washington state says,
(1) A person who intentionally views over the internet visual or printed matter depicting a minor engaged in sexually explicit conduct as defined in RCW 9.68A.011(4) (a) through (e) is guilty of viewing depictions of a minor engaged in sexually explicit conduct in the first degree, a class B felony punishable under chapter 9A.20 RCW.
(2) A person who intentionally views over the internet visual or printed matter depicting a minor engaged in sexually explicit conduct as defined in RCW 9.68A.011(4) (f) or (g) is guilty of viewing depictions of a minor engaged in sexually explicit conduct in the second degree, a class C felony punishable under chapter 9A.20 RCW.
(3) For the purposes of determining whether a person intentionally viewed over the internet a visual or printed matter depicting a minor engaged in sexually explicit conduct in subsection (1) or (2) of this section, the trier of fact shall consider the title, text, and content of the visual or printed matter, as well as the internet history, search terms, thumbnail images, downloading activity, expert computer forensic testimony, number of visual or printed matter depicting minors engaged in sexually explicit conduct, defendant's access to and control over the electronic device and its contents upon which the visual or printed matter was found, or any other relevant evidence. The state must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the viewing was initiated by the user of the computer where the viewing occurred.
(4) For the purposes of this section, each separate internet session of intentionally viewing over the internet visual or printed matter depicting a minor engaged in sexually explicit conduct constitutes a separate offense.
-SO- the conclusion is, it may or may not be legal depending on what state you live in.
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It's probably similar to drugs. It's not illegal to do cocaine but everything else along the journey to using it is illegal so it's not necessary to make a law saying you can't get high on it. By viewing child porn you're probably breaking existing laws related to possession, transmission or promotion so it doesn't seem necessary to outlaw viewing it specifically.
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You're probably right, but such presumptions aren't facts. Neither you or I know for fact, that it's illegal to view child porn on an online browser, despite us both being aware of what common sense suggests. Until I know for certain, I won't make the presumption.