Not religious of an athiest, but religious people have their fair share of pointless debate tactics. A lot of the time they think faith is enough to win a debate.
This is true. But let me present this hypothetical situation to better get my point across. You're debating with a Christian who is intelligent, polite and using proper debate techniques, not committing any fallacies.
Do you think you would have a better debate with said individual if you.
1. Mocked and insulted them the entire time.
or
2. Kept a calm discourse and discussed your problems point to point.
If someone is being ridiculous I would call them out on it in a heartbeat. But for those moderate theists out there who aren't hurting anyone with their belief, I don't see how ridiculing them would be effective, or why I as a nonbeliever should even care if they're not out causing problems in the name of "god."
yeah, i'm with lilly on that one. I have seen such topics or discussions go off-track as often when religious people brought faith into it to "block" science, as atheists bringing ridicule into it to "block" faith.
Both sides start it as often as the other, but the result is usually the same.
It's sad it goes that far, but on the other hand, if a person refuses reason, there's little else you could do, and ridicule is still better than contempt.
I definitely agree. :) But the trend I've been seeing a lot is ridicule of all religious people and religions, even if they're being reasonable. Or not even in a debate, they just go around making fun of religious people all day. And whenever someone posts anything about god on facebook, they go say hurtful things to them and then post it on the internet like "just Pwned this Christian".
I feel like if you really want someone to agree with what you're going to say, you wouldn't immediately disrespect them. If someone in my own age group were to treat me the way they treat people, I wouldn't give credence to anything they had to say simply for the bad attitude they said it with.
I've definitely been in my fair share of debates gone retarded. It just seems like more often than not the people I see arguing this position are just trying to stroke their own ego while putting other groups of people beneath them.
Do you think someone would change your mind about a topic by mocking your beliefs about it?
The website I've seen most of this on has a lot of... interesting... people for lack of a better term.
IIN that many modern day atheists use ridicule as a conversion tactic?
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Not religious of an athiest, but religious people have their fair share of pointless debate tactics. A lot of the time they think faith is enough to win a debate.
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This is true. But let me present this hypothetical situation to better get my point across. You're debating with a Christian who is intelligent, polite and using proper debate techniques, not committing any fallacies.
Do you think you would have a better debate with said individual if you.
1. Mocked and insulted them the entire time.
or
2. Kept a calm discourse and discussed your problems point to point.
If someone is being ridiculous I would call them out on it in a heartbeat. But for those moderate theists out there who aren't hurting anyone with their belief, I don't see how ridiculing them would be effective, or why I as a nonbeliever should even care if they're not out causing problems in the name of "god."
yeah, i'm with lilly on that one. I have seen such topics or discussions go off-track as often when religious people brought faith into it to "block" science, as atheists bringing ridicule into it to "block" faith.
Both sides start it as often as the other, but the result is usually the same.
It's sad it goes that far, but on the other hand, if a person refuses reason, there's little else you could do, and ridicule is still better than contempt.
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I definitely agree. :) But the trend I've been seeing a lot is ridicule of all religious people and religions, even if they're being reasonable. Or not even in a debate, they just go around making fun of religious people all day. And whenever someone posts anything about god on facebook, they go say hurtful things to them and then post it on the internet like "just Pwned this Christian".
I feel like if you really want someone to agree with what you're going to say, you wouldn't immediately disrespect them. If someone in my own age group were to treat me the way they treat people, I wouldn't give credence to anything they had to say simply for the bad attitude they said it with.
I've definitely been in my fair share of debates gone retarded. It just seems like more often than not the people I see arguing this position are just trying to stroke their own ego while putting other groups of people beneath them.
Do you think someone would change your mind about a topic by mocking your beliefs about it?
The website I've seen most of this on has a lot of... interesting... people for lack of a better term.
Sorry for the length, again. :P
Agreed.