But lets be honest: school, family, friends, and society, are all influenced by religion. Haha especially society, hello: laws??.
People who think that religion is suddenly going to go poof? No. It will not. Its all wishful conjecture. In my opinion, man almost has a DRIVE to believe in something more powerful. religious thought will certainly change but it will absolutely not disappear.
this reminds me of the book Oryx and Crake by margret atwood. Crake, something like a mad-scientist, creates a new race of man modeled after his preferences. Because he doesn't believe in god, he destroys parts of their brain that's has anything to do with worship. Nontheless the new humans began questioning where they came from and poof they start believing in Crake, their god. Eh, it's only a novel but these things are relevant.
How so?
You think we wouldn't have those laws if it wasn't for religion?
You think people need the bible to be good?
People already knew not to steal or murder before anything Christendom related happened.
Ever heard of the Dark Ages? A very violent time in Europe that came AFTER Christianity.
Ming China 1368-1644 was one of the greatest eras of orderly government and social stability in human history.
Without religion.
There was Confucianism, but that's not religion, there is no "god" or greater being, it's a Chinese ethical and philosophical system.
Most of the people in Japan and China today are not religious, yet Christianity was never really there and it's quite peaceful there.
Laws are there because of humans, they are there even if there is no religion in the whole country.
I can't name a lot more countries because many were colonized and converted to Christianity, and Islam conquered a large part as well (and yet many of those countries are very violent and unsafe).
What does education have to do with religion?
Lol if anything education does is make the person question religion itself, if anything we know is the most educated countries tend not to be religious at all.
You could be right, the more we know about science, technology, the universe, the more we find out and discover, the more Christianity and its bible changes.
Maybe that will just keep happening and people will keep following it blindly.
But let's not ignore the statistics, in the countries where people are educated and free to abandon their religion (aka developened countries), the amount of believers have gone downhill.
Europe is clearly far less religious than it used to be, people are actually thinking now.
In the United States the amount of non-believers have gone up as well from 8% of the population in 1990 to 15% in 2008.
Christianity isn't the only religion out there, oh and, there WAS a religion in china during the ming dynasty, Taoism. Taoism is the belief that one must keep in a state of balance, the universe is infinite, and that the jade emperor, with other deities, help guide the universe.
the dark ages, it wasn't just the Christians. the christians, jews, and muslims were all locked in a war for jerusalem, but in the end the muslims won.
Japan without a religion? Buddhism IS a religion! (Many deities) oh, and Shinto is also A RELIGION. And since 1949, china is communist, and under government control. the state may be officially Athiest, but Taoism and Buddhism are supported.
Christianity and Islam aren't the only religions out there, Ever heard of Hinduism, Judiasm, Zoroastrinism, Santaria, and Voodoo, along with the religious system that was followed by the native Americans, The Norse System of the Vikings, and the many Polytheistic ideas of the ancient civilizations? There are and were others, but there are too many to list.
Religion has been around since the earliest of days, at least since they stopped being slaves to instinct, and started wondering about the world.
Do your homework before you start talking.
also, there will always be a religion of sorts, until Science once and for all either proves or disproves that Some sort of God exists.(Even if the government tries to force athiesm on the world. )
Sorry for my late response, I haven't been on this site for a while.
I never said Christianity is the only religion..
Christianity happenened to be the major religion in Europe, and Europe happened to colonize great parts of the world (and Islam conquering other parts).
That is why those two religions have the most adherents.
The Dark Ages is actually the name of a period of time in Europe...
Which began after the Roman empire fell (aka. sack of Rome), which was much earlier than the Crusades (now you do your homework, hypocrit:)
Japan actually has a great portion of atheists, so does China.
Not all Buddhists, Taoists or Shintoists believe in a "god".
I've asked them, and you can look it up yourself why they do so.
Some do it to be spiritual, or to honor their ancestors, or because it's their country's tradition or culture (mostly the last three).
These words do not necessarily mean religion.
I know Christianity and Islam aren't the only two religions out there sherlock, as I said before there's certain religions who make up for a very high percentage of the religious world population.
Religion is here because humans didn't know better.
So yes as science further disproves the claims in the Quran and the Bible and further discovers more flaws... the more religion will disappear.
Even though it's hard to disprove some things in there that were made up.
(Even if the government forces religion on the world, which we both know also existed/exists.)
(1)I don't think that laws wouldn't have been thought up without religion BUT religion has always been a factor. Throughout history, something wasn't just a crime against a person/people, it was a crime against a deity.
2) I absolutely did not say anything about a bible, but then again we are not talking about Christianity are we? we are talking religion in general. In my opinion, religion evolves, it doesn't die.
3) What does education have to do with religion? Not much? Well, for one, hundreds of thousands of volumes of historical literature were burned in the dark ages you speak of. Any lick of literature we have before, during, and after the fall of Rome is really due to fervent bookmaking, brought to you exclusively by the church. Math, science and technology, you may not know this, was a fundamental part of the early church. I digress, I don't care to defend Christianity, because we both know that eventually the church would grow into a tyrant (suppressing much of the knowledge it had previously promoted).
And com'mon, you think that PEOPLE will suddenly stop believing in a god, afterlife, and divine retribution? Give me a break with the "educated people aren't believers" crap. Who cares about the US? You are of the first-world perspective, where religion doesn't have as much value anymore. Why would it? Are you starving? Do you have clothing on your back? Are you constantly seeing people around you die from disease? Is your woman being raped? Your son, has he been kidnapped? Your government, foul as any government may be, isn't killing it's own constituents. The fact that you aren't experiencing any of these things means that your very well off. Well off enough to not care about a god, whom most impoverished people pray will avenge them.
Seriously, we could go on and on about this. Is it really worth it?
Is it normal that I want religion to disappear from our planet?
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Normal, sure.
But lets be honest: school, family, friends, and society, are all influenced by religion. Haha especially society, hello: laws??.
People who think that religion is suddenly going to go poof? No. It will not. Its all wishful conjecture. In my opinion, man almost has a DRIVE to believe in something more powerful. religious thought will certainly change but it will absolutely not disappear.
this reminds me of the book Oryx and Crake by margret atwood. Crake, something like a mad-scientist, creates a new race of man modeled after his preferences. Because he doesn't believe in god, he destroys parts of their brain that's has anything to do with worship. Nontheless the new humans began questioning where they came from and poof they start believing in Crake, their god. Eh, it's only a novel but these things are relevant.
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How so?
You think we wouldn't have those laws if it wasn't for religion?
You think people need the bible to be good?
People already knew not to steal or murder before anything Christendom related happened.
Ever heard of the Dark Ages? A very violent time in Europe that came AFTER Christianity.
Ming China 1368-1644 was one of the greatest eras of orderly government and social stability in human history.
Without religion.
There was Confucianism, but that's not religion, there is no "god" or greater being, it's a Chinese ethical and philosophical system.
Most of the people in Japan and China today are not religious, yet Christianity was never really there and it's quite peaceful there.
Laws are there because of humans, they are there even if there is no religion in the whole country.
I can't name a lot more countries because many were colonized and converted to Christianity, and Islam conquered a large part as well (and yet many of those countries are very violent and unsafe).
What does education have to do with religion?
Lol if anything education does is make the person question religion itself, if anything we know is the most educated countries tend not to be religious at all.
You could be right, the more we know about science, technology, the universe, the more we find out and discover, the more Christianity and its bible changes.
Maybe that will just keep happening and people will keep following it blindly.
But let's not ignore the statistics, in the countries where people are educated and free to abandon their religion (aka developened countries), the amount of believers have gone downhill.
Europe is clearly far less religious than it used to be, people are actually thinking now.
In the United States the amount of non-believers have gone up as well from 8% of the population in 1990 to 15% in 2008.
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Christianity isn't the only religion out there, oh and, there WAS a religion in china during the ming dynasty, Taoism. Taoism is the belief that one must keep in a state of balance, the universe is infinite, and that the jade emperor, with other deities, help guide the universe.
the dark ages, it wasn't just the Christians. the christians, jews, and muslims were all locked in a war for jerusalem, but in the end the muslims won.
Japan without a religion? Buddhism IS a religion! (Many deities) oh, and Shinto is also A RELIGION. And since 1949, china is communist, and under government control. the state may be officially Athiest, but Taoism and Buddhism are supported.
Christianity and Islam aren't the only religions out there, Ever heard of Hinduism, Judiasm, Zoroastrinism, Santaria, and Voodoo, along with the religious system that was followed by the native Americans, The Norse System of the Vikings, and the many Polytheistic ideas of the ancient civilizations? There are and were others, but there are too many to list.
Religion has been around since the earliest of days, at least since they stopped being slaves to instinct, and started wondering about the world.
Do your homework before you start talking.
also, there will always be a religion of sorts, until Science once and for all either proves or disproves that Some sort of God exists.(Even if the government tries to force athiesm on the world. )
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Sorry for my late response, I haven't been on this site for a while.
I never said Christianity is the only religion..
Christianity happenened to be the major religion in Europe, and Europe happened to colonize great parts of the world (and Islam conquering other parts).
That is why those two religions have the most adherents.
The Dark Ages is actually the name of a period of time in Europe...
Which began after the Roman empire fell (aka. sack of Rome), which was much earlier than the Crusades (now you do your homework, hypocrit:)
Japan actually has a great portion of atheists, so does China.
Not all Buddhists, Taoists or Shintoists believe in a "god".
I've asked them, and you can look it up yourself why they do so.
Some do it to be spiritual, or to honor their ancestors, or because it's their country's tradition or culture (mostly the last three).
These words do not necessarily mean religion.
I know Christianity and Islam aren't the only two religions out there sherlock, as I said before there's certain religions who make up for a very high percentage of the religious world population.
Religion is here because humans didn't know better.
So yes as science further disproves the claims in the Quran and the Bible and further discovers more flaws... the more religion will disappear.
Even though it's hard to disprove some things in there that were made up.
(Even if the government forces religion on the world, which we both know also existed/exists.)
(1)I don't think that laws wouldn't have been thought up without religion BUT religion has always been a factor. Throughout history, something wasn't just a crime against a person/people, it was a crime against a deity.
2) I absolutely did not say anything about a bible, but then again we are not talking about Christianity are we? we are talking religion in general. In my opinion, religion evolves, it doesn't die.
3) What does education have to do with religion? Not much? Well, for one, hundreds of thousands of volumes of historical literature were burned in the dark ages you speak of. Any lick of literature we have before, during, and after the fall of Rome is really due to fervent bookmaking, brought to you exclusively by the church. Math, science and technology, you may not know this, was a fundamental part of the early church. I digress, I don't care to defend Christianity, because we both know that eventually the church would grow into a tyrant (suppressing much of the knowledge it had previously promoted).
And com'mon, you think that PEOPLE will suddenly stop believing in a god, afterlife, and divine retribution? Give me a break with the "educated people aren't believers" crap. Who cares about the US? You are of the first-world perspective, where religion doesn't have as much value anymore. Why would it? Are you starving? Do you have clothing on your back? Are you constantly seeing people around you die from disease? Is your woman being raped? Your son, has he been kidnapped? Your government, foul as any government may be, isn't killing it's own constituents. The fact that you aren't experiencing any of these things means that your very well off. Well off enough to not care about a god, whom most impoverished people pray will avenge them.
Seriously, we could go on and on about this. Is it really worth it?