Is it normal that i utterly despise modern society?

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Ok I get it that this looks like another 14-year-old being all smart, but I think it’s different because I had some experience that lead me to this from other points of view.
This is a long-read for this, I think.

Well, I was quite a stupid liberal when I was really young and after that I became conservative, but I still supported capitalism and industrial society, but then it struck me that this is all wrong.

So I started with something I call axiological elitarianism. It is a concept I came up with (probably not very original) that states that it’s more valuable for us to have large amounts of resources to be concentrated in the hands of evolutionally superior people (they have to be smart because you couldn’t achieve much with sheer muscle strength in Roman Empire for example; also it hugely depends on the genes). It is because my main values are intellect and art (meaning anything people create that is not required to satisfy their physiological needs; simple definition of better art is when smarter people have more resources). And I even wrote an article about this (It’s in Russian). Obviously egalitarian modern society doesn’t meet this criteria at all.

After that, I understood that people don’t actually care about art and smart things (I am trying to make this text suitable for general reader, plebeian) so my worldview is based on a prejudice (look up is/ought gap). And then I started reading and listening to some traditionalist philosophers and etc. and found so many reasons why you can hate modernity. It’s easier to explain this from a national perspective because Russians (of whom I am a part of) (and all the nations actually) are exeptional. Russians are beautiful in their devotion to tradition. I really like the idea of Third Rome and the orthodox and Russian people as the only christians to answer on the Judgement day (Don’t actually believe any of this though, but even for an atheist modern society looks pathetic; but for postmodernists discourse determines reality anyways). Well, I didn’t write this to persuade someone into traditionalism, but to tell my story and maybe exchange experiences. This text is very and I mean very superficious and doesn’t cover 1% of the reasons to hate modernity (I didn’t even cover hunter-gatherers and neolitic revolution and lots of other stuff), but I hope it’s enough to get the impression of what I feel and hopefully answer the stated question of whether or not it is normal to hate modern society and love traditional societies.

Is It Normal?
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  • This post truly reaches levels of narcissism and assholery that even I can’t comprehend. Most people grow out of the “everyone else is a dumb sheep and I’m the enlightened one” stage at about 12 or 13.

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    • I didn’t say I was the only one who is enlightened (by the way, bad association with the Age of Enlightenment). I just wanted to say that I agree with traditionalist philosophers and historical conservatives (of which we had tons).
      As I’ve said, I don’t have good enough English writing skills to write a text that’ll persuade anyone, but I can share what I think, so this was just to see people react

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      • I hate modern society too but you sound like a pseudo-intellectual pretentious dick. But hey you like art and smart things so that makes you smarter than everybody else.

        Not religious but modern science meets all criteria of a religion. Also I don't get your whole idea about having small numbers of "genetically superior" people hold control over all the resources creating a traditional society. That whole scenario minus technology is literally just some mad max shit where everyones living in a totalitarian dystopia. Your idea is dumb.

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        • I don’t see any difference between my description and a normal patriarchal society (for example Roman Empire). And even if it does differ then I probably didn’t mean it. Also I came up with it when I was pretty young

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          • So what is it about the roman empire that was so much better than the current system? Id say most of the problems with modern society were there in Rome too. Is it the technology you dont like or what?

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            • During the height of the Roman empire, between 10 and 15 percent of those living in it were slaves. Maybe that's part of its appeal to the OP, since in the mid 19th century, around 40% of the population of Russia were serfs (slaves in all but name).

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            • It’s more of a cultural thing. Egalitarian society is bound to have a lot of stupid people having rights to manifest their opinions and that leads to lots of different phenomena and I think that technology (industrial revolution) just gave a chance for the ideas of Modern Time to spread. I am not really a unabomber kind of primitivist

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  • "...it’s more valuable for us to have large amounts of resources to be concentrated in the hands of evolutionally superior people..."

    And who makes the judgement of which people are 'superior'? You? If not, are you confident that you would indeed be judged to be superior?

    As for the rest of your screed, it's just the usual conservative, nationalistic crap. If you believe Russia should get back to the system of Czars, nobles and serfs that fucked up your country for centuries, why don't you get in touch with Vlad or Patriarch Kirill and volunteer to help them take Russia along this path. I'm sure they're always looking for goons.

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  • me too that's why i masturbate to murder. better then any porn

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  • if this isnt hansberger then you two need to get together and compare notes

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  • Beats past society

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  • Fuck modern society, eveyone gets pissed for nothing, no freedom of speech and you need to be politically correct in order to be accepted, fuck that.

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    • If people didn't confuse freedom of speech with freedom from accountablity it wouldn't be an issue. Too many people think it is okay to be a jerk and get mad when people react. What did you think was going to happen? The world is not your bitch.

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      • You dont get my point, as you can see you got triggered by my comment lol.

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        • Congratulations? Let's "unbox" that. You are trying to trigger people and when you think you do, you claim I am the problem. To you also blame the bear when you poke it? It is you who completely missed my point and stupidly thought I was triggered.

          And to be clear, I am not triggered. In fact, I agree with you to some extent. I just don't lump everyone together. I also emphasize with my fellow man. Something that humanity is losing. Thankfully natural disasters bring out the best in us.

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          • You are right, i thought otherwise...
            cheers.

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  • Society is doomed.

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  • Yes

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  • If you aren’t old enough to remember pre modern (pre internet taking off and rearranging the world) then you have no basis for comparison in order to form such a complaint.

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