We don't have control over who we are attracted to, right? It's not a concious decision. We don't have control over our physical response to attraction. Boners for males, getting wet for females. Basically getting aroused in the genitals or "horny". We don't choose this, it just happens. There's no wrong or right to it. The concept of "good or bad" related to sexual acts is completely man-made. It's something we have been made to believe. It often goes against our natural biological urges. I really don't know how to be more clear than that.
The video is flawed because..first of all, it's obviously heavily edited. What did they cut out to prove their point? The woman is very attractive and dressed provacatively. The male is just blah and sloppy looking. Apart from that, did it occur to you that men have been conditioned to say "yes" and women conditioned to say "no"? I'm notsaying there is NO truth in the conclusion, I am saying again there's so much artificial influence on both males and females to cause concern over the results of the experimeny. Men may feel pressure to accept the offer even if they don't *really* want to (as you said has happened to you personally( and women may want to say "yes" but fear the repercussions.
You're not getting it, S.I. Yes, we both feel desire, we both do not control who we like, that does not mean that what we typically like are different and the requirements of one group are harder to meet than the requirements of the other.
They edited it out...Otherwise the video would be longer than it has to, they cut out the parts inbetween each interaction to fit it in to a short video. Using this as a "what happened in between?" point is absurd, you are making an assumption based on nothing. As for the female and male part, no, theguy does not look sloppy, he's wearing average attire, he's well built and not an unattractive person physically. There is another video of a guy asking 200 women for sex with mutliple attires and is handsome (don't know if the same guy) and still recieved 199 no's.
You're being unreasonable here simply to try prove your point.
I would go in to this whole social conditioning thing, but it is irrelevant. Whether or not this was true is does not change that women can still gain sex easier.
No, I get it, you've proven reasons why slut shaming happens. I don't disagree that the reasons exist, I disagree with the actual validity of those reasons. And I think that there's really no reason on earth good enough to justify shaming anyone for this.
Conditioning is not irrelevant.We're not born with the idea that sex is for marriage only, or you must wait 5 dates (or whatever)to have sex. That is all taught to us. If women didn't fear a tarnished reputation then sex would come easier to men so of course it would change things. But see, I think you put way too much stock into this whole "requirement" thing. All that's really required is attraction amd arousal. Everything on top of that is stuff we've been taught or fear of being seen in a bad light.
Is it normal that I think guys and girls should be treated equal?
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We don't have control over who we are attracted to, right? It's not a concious decision. We don't have control over our physical response to attraction. Boners for males, getting wet for females. Basically getting aroused in the genitals or "horny". We don't choose this, it just happens. There's no wrong or right to it. The concept of "good or bad" related to sexual acts is completely man-made. It's something we have been made to believe. It often goes against our natural biological urges. I really don't know how to be more clear than that.
The video is flawed because..first of all, it's obviously heavily edited. What did they cut out to prove their point? The woman is very attractive and dressed provacatively. The male is just blah and sloppy looking. Apart from that, did it occur to you that men have been conditioned to say "yes" and women conditioned to say "no"? I'm notsaying there is NO truth in the conclusion, I am saying again there's so much artificial influence on both males and females to cause concern over the results of the experimeny. Men may feel pressure to accept the offer even if they don't *really* want to (as you said has happened to you personally( and women may want to say "yes" but fear the repercussions.
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You're not getting it, S.I. Yes, we both feel desire, we both do not control who we like, that does not mean that what we typically like are different and the requirements of one group are harder to meet than the requirements of the other.
They edited it out...Otherwise the video would be longer than it has to, they cut out the parts inbetween each interaction to fit it in to a short video. Using this as a "what happened in between?" point is absurd, you are making an assumption based on nothing. As for the female and male part, no, theguy does not look sloppy, he's wearing average attire, he's well built and not an unattractive person physically. There is another video of a guy asking 200 women for sex with mutliple attires and is handsome (don't know if the same guy) and still recieved 199 no's.
You're being unreasonable here simply to try prove your point.
I would go in to this whole social conditioning thing, but it is irrelevant. Whether or not this was true is does not change that women can still gain sex easier.
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No, I get it, you've proven reasons why slut shaming happens. I don't disagree that the reasons exist, I disagree with the actual validity of those reasons. And I think that there's really no reason on earth good enough to justify shaming anyone for this.
Conditioning is not irrelevant.We're not born with the idea that sex is for marriage only, or you must wait 5 dates (or whatever)to have sex. That is all taught to us. If women didn't fear a tarnished reputation then sex would come easier to men so of course it would change things. But see, I think you put way too much stock into this whole "requirement" thing. All that's really required is attraction amd arousal. Everything on top of that is stuff we've been taught or fear of being seen in a bad light.