As a psychology enthusiast myself, I would contribute this... IQ tests are bullshit. And while taking college level classes in the 11th grade is indeed noteworthy, don't take to heart the significance of your GPA or how prestigious the university is that you attend. The educational system is just as bad at predicting intelligence as IQ tests, if not worse.
As for the normality of these thoughts... Not exactly what the average person thinks about. It depends on how you really are viewing the concept. Are serial killers fascinating to the point where you want to know how they think or do you just want to become one for the thrill?
I am quite adept in the use of behavioural psychology, I find it quite interesting indeed. Serial crime is a huge interest of mine.
The OP doesn't seem that genuine though, as the vast majority of serial killings are serial-sexual-homicides. Serial killers usually, abduct, rape, then murder (and the majority strangle their victims to avoid mess and feel greater control). The murder is often just a way of avoiding jail time for the rape and/or torture, sex is the biggest "gain" for the serial killer. Sex and violence are fused together in their minds, the OP certainly doesn't show that kind of pathology. The want to join the FBI and be a serial killer at the same time shows a feeling of powerlessness and a need for attention, he would more likely commit a single homicide, but it would be against someone famous. Like a mark david chapman esque killing.
Though IQ certainly isn't bullshit, but it may or may not be of help in a career as a serial killer. Mostly they are caught through dumb luck, so it doesn't matter how smart you are because there are always circumstances you can't control (like a witness you didn't notice, or a cop pulling you over for a traffic offense)
Americas most "successful" serial killer, Gary Ridgeway, had an IQ of 84 so he was a kind of "slow" guy. Yet he ran rings around high IQ killers like Bundy, Gacy and Dahmer, was married, held the same job for over a decade, and stayed on the loose for nearly 20 years. Bundy was very bright with a 125 point IQ, yet he did many stupid things like introducing himself to victims using his real name!
Gacy had the exact same IQ as I do (118 point) and when he took the lie detector test they said the only time he told the truth was when he stated his name, yet Gary Ridgeway aced it, he was "academically" slow but a highly skilled liar with a great deal of controlled cunning.
You brought to light a lot of good points. I found the most interesting to be your concept of why I have these thoughts. I had never assessed that in myself until you posted. But, thinking now, I believe it may be true. I can retrace feelings that I have gone through that would further justify your hypothesis.
It's flattering as well that you thought my post was interesting and worth while to post such a long reply to it. But, honestly, had someone else posted this topic, I may have been just as inclined to reply in a just as lengthy format.
Thank you for the input. I can tell that you're very well qualified in your field of study. You've very much impressed me.
IQ having nothing to do with the ability to lie and fool people is exactly why it's bullshit. It only assesses the general concepts in OUR society. It doesn't take into account all the different forms of intelligence and all the different skills people use that vary around the world.
It's a means to further divide people with numbers that mean nothing and attempt to assign a single numerical value to the entire thought process of a person. It's the oversimplification of the brain and mindless suckers buy into it, take the test, and get all excited when there IQ is higher than someone elses. It's like getting a fortune cookie and bragging that yours was better.
haha and NEED it for math? Are you serious right now? I'm starting to think I'm trying to explain the concepts of human intelligence to a troll.
and just because it exists doesn't mean it's not bullshit. That was literally the worst argument ever made. Just look at religion, war, famine, ect ect ect.
If you have the time I strongly urge you to pick up a psychology book and read the sections regarding human intelligence. You might come to realize that, by believing one number could sum up the entire complex architecture of human intelligence, you have just insulted your own race.
Well I guess you're not intelligent enough to comprehend intelligence. I hate to waste my pity on your ignorance but I can't help it. Seriously. Pick up a book and it will all make a lot more sense.
I agree. Intelligence is difficult to pin down. A more diverse system needs to be created.
I had imagined not as well. As for my view of the concept -- I believe it's static at best. I have an interest in both. I've always seen myself as being strongly justice-oriented, however the fascination has been there. Perhaps it will always remain just a thought that will never be acted out on. A favorite quote of mine is one by Friedrich Nietzshe: "Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you."
Yeah, Profiler Robert Ressler used that quote in his book "whoever fights monsters"
Here is a very interesting one from the now executed serial killer David Gore;
"All of a sudden I realized that I had just done something that separated me from the human race and it was something that could never be undone, I realized that from that point on I could never be like normal people. I must have stood there in that state for 20 minutes. I have never felt an emptiness of self like I did right then and I never will forget that feeling. It was like I crossed over into a realm I could never come back from."
That sounds like a very harrowing realization -- being separated from what you are from the extent of what you've done. I imagine the most horrid thing that was plaguing his mind was guilt -- unmatched guilt and sorrow. If I was afflicted with those feelings, I would probably no longer wish to live.
Is it normal that I sometimes fantasize being a serial killer?
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I am quite adept in the use of behavioural psychology, I find it quite interesting indeed. Serial crime is a huge interest of mine.
The OP doesn't seem that genuine though, as the vast majority of serial killings are serial-sexual-homicides. Serial killers usually, abduct, rape, then murder (and the majority strangle their victims to avoid mess and feel greater control). The murder is often just a way of avoiding jail time for the rape and/or torture, sex is the biggest "gain" for the serial killer. Sex and violence are fused together in their minds, the OP certainly doesn't show that kind of pathology. The want to join the FBI and be a serial killer at the same time shows a feeling of powerlessness and a need for attention, he would more likely commit a single homicide, but it would be against someone famous. Like a mark david chapman esque killing.
Though IQ certainly isn't bullshit, but it may or may not be of help in a career as a serial killer. Mostly they are caught through dumb luck, so it doesn't matter how smart you are because there are always circumstances you can't control (like a witness you didn't notice, or a cop pulling you over for a traffic offense)
Americas most "successful" serial killer, Gary Ridgeway, had an IQ of 84 so he was a kind of "slow" guy. Yet he ran rings around high IQ killers like Bundy, Gacy and Dahmer, was married, held the same job for over a decade, and stayed on the loose for nearly 20 years. Bundy was very bright with a 125 point IQ, yet he did many stupid things like introducing himself to victims using his real name!
Gacy had the exact same IQ as I do (118 point) and when he took the lie detector test they said the only time he told the truth was when he stated his name, yet Gary Ridgeway aced it, he was "academically" slow but a highly skilled liar with a great deal of controlled cunning.
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I just fell head over heels for your brain. So attractive. Like a real life spencer reid from criminal minds.
You brought to light a lot of good points. I found the most interesting to be your concept of why I have these thoughts. I had never assessed that in myself until you posted. But, thinking now, I believe it may be true. I can retrace feelings that I have gone through that would further justify your hypothesis.
It's flattering as well that you thought my post was interesting and worth while to post such a long reply to it. But, honestly, had someone else posted this topic, I may have been just as inclined to reply in a just as lengthy format.
Thank you for the input. I can tell that you're very well qualified in your field of study. You've very much impressed me.
you just made a points in paragraph 4 that support IQ being bullshit. Thank you.
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Not even nearly, I actually only made a point that IQ has nothing to do with your ability to lie well and fool people.
It doesn't go into any detail about the use of IQ in billions of other things that you need it for, like oh say, mathematics ect, ect, ect.
IQ isn't bullshit lol, that's why it exists.
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IQ having nothing to do with the ability to lie and fool people is exactly why it's bullshit. It only assesses the general concepts in OUR society. It doesn't take into account all the different forms of intelligence and all the different skills people use that vary around the world.
It's a means to further divide people with numbers that mean nothing and attempt to assign a single numerical value to the entire thought process of a person. It's the oversimplification of the brain and mindless suckers buy into it, take the test, and get all excited when there IQ is higher than someone elses. It's like getting a fortune cookie and bragging that yours was better.
haha and NEED it for math? Are you serious right now? I'm starting to think I'm trying to explain the concepts of human intelligence to a troll.
and just because it exists doesn't mean it's not bullshit. That was literally the worst argument ever made. Just look at religion, war, famine, ect ect ect.
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Is this a troll?
Because this seriously is the stupidest shit I've ever heard, every single word of it.
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Well I guess you're not intelligent enough to comprehend intelligence. I hate to waste my pity on your ignorance but I can't help it. Seriously. Pick up a book and it will all make a lot more sense.
I agree. Intelligence is difficult to pin down. A more diverse system needs to be created.
I had imagined not as well. As for my view of the concept -- I believe it's static at best. I have an interest in both. I've always seen myself as being strongly justice-oriented, however the fascination has been there. Perhaps it will always remain just a thought that will never be acted out on. A favorite quote of mine is one by Friedrich Nietzshe: "Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you."
Thanks for the input. It was thought provoking.
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Yeah, Profiler Robert Ressler used that quote in his book "whoever fights monsters"
Here is a very interesting one from the now executed serial killer David Gore;
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That sounds like a very harrowing realization -- being separated from what you are from the extent of what you've done. I imagine the most horrid thing that was plaguing his mind was guilt -- unmatched guilt and sorrow. If I was afflicted with those feelings, I would probably no longer wish to live.
Thanks, tommy.
that's an excellent quote.! And no problem. Glad I could provide some thought.