IIN that I really don't want to be gay?

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  • Wrong. Its a choice

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    • Attraction isn't something we consciously control.

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      • i used to be straight

        never liked dick

        was turned off by it

        later i saw cute feminine boys in porn

        my perspective changed from thinking about boys, which would turn me off, to thinking about them in a feminine way

        my perspective changed, and then i became open to them

        (curious)

        and i got into them only because they were feminine

        i still like feminine parts of either girls or boys, so yes that has never changed

        but thanks to me being open to feminine boys, my thoughts have changed

        i know its just mainly in porn, which is where the most feminine of boys has come from

        society is usually mostly masculine, with the guys being masculine

        porn has allowed a doorway of open-minded into something that rarely occurs in society

        sure it is possible for guys to be feminine, but thats not usually how it works

        except in boys, not men

        ive never changed my attraction to femininity, but im more open-minded about the same sex

        porn can make more people open-minded about being gay, and the elites are trying to make guys more feminine

        which is not natural. this is not how society is supposed to be

        but still, if i wanted to change my attraction, i probaley still could

        so your saying, even though i dont like big muscular dudes, i cant start being attracted to them if i try?

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        • Uhh, if you can start being attracted to big muscular dudes if you want to, that means you've always been attracted to them...you're just repressing it, which is common among homophobic bigots. The anger and hatred, which you disguise with this "it's not natural" bullshit, is a result of the jealousy you feel about them accepting who they are and the anger at yourself for feeling that way.

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          • thats retarded

            stop being retarded

            IM NOT attracted to muscular guys, but what if my attraction changes?

            why is it impossible for my attraction to change?

            why?

            apparently the op of this question has changed his attraction to feminine guys, to masculine guys

            why is this impossible, and why is this such a impossibility to your mind?

            its not that im repressing it, omfg

            thats like saying you're secretly into banging dogs, and if your not your just repressing your attraction

            that argument is retarded as dogshit

            attraction can change

            end of story

            and btw its just not natural if you understand the ying yang of attraction

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      • it is feeling i agree with you

        but you can choose

        just like you can choose not to drink soda even though you may like it

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        • Do you realize you just proved your idiotic "it's a choice" post completely wrong?

          Being gay isn't about what you do, it's how you feel. And you just admitted that you don't choose how you feel or what you like, you can only choose what you do about it. But whether you do it or not is irrelevant, the feelings are still there. If you're attracted to your own gender, whether you act on it or not, you're gay. (Or bi if you're attracted to both, obviously.) That means, by your own admission, being gay isn't a choice.

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          • i understand its both feeling, and at the same time, it is also what you choose

            just because you get horny to something, doesnt mean you have to act on it is what im saying

            with my analogy

            who says its not a choice either?

            why can i not choose my attraction? i am my own person. i make my own decisions

            i used to be straight

            im bisexual now

            its a choice

            explain that

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        • Someone hack your account or did you overdo the alcohol at a Superbowl Party?

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          • are you saying that you can choose is ridiculous?

            or my analogy?

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    • Then why can't I change? I tried it with girls so many times. Even dated a pretty hot girl in high school when I used to play basketball. I just end up being more attracted to males, because I've been avoiding them the whole time.

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      • because you THINK you cant change

        when you really can

        its all state of mind

        of course if you think you cant change then you arent even allowing yourself a chance to possibly change

        you got to have the attitude that you CAN, because the truth is you really can

        im bisexual right now. yet im straight at heart. always like feminine-ness, always will

        even with guys they gotta be feminine or its gonna be a turn off

        and i want to become straight again one day, i have felt so straight that i couldnt even look at dicks in pictures

        it was nasty

        and now im open to it lol

        it is a choice. i used to be straight. i changed once, i can change back

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        • When I was in high school I used to be attracted to the femine type, but they also had to be small/short, so they could closely resembled a girl. But now I'm more attracted to the masculine type, since I find them to be rarer in the lgbt community that I went to with some friends. And being more on the neutral/masc side than feminine I could relate to them better, like chatting about sports, games and etc.

          I don't know why but feminity isn't attractive to me anymore, and it never drew me in when it was a feminine girl. My first full on crush was with one of my friends on my basket ball team, when I was 15, I learnt he was bi later and he almost got with me. But then he got kicked of the team for smoking on school grounds and he kinda fucked his life up and dropped out of school. He stopped contacting me too.

          If I try to break my attraction towards men some how, I still have the problem of trying to build up attraction towards women. Tried porn too but I found my self taking no interest the women there either. Only some seemed to draw my attention if the were flat chested and not too curvy.

          I'm so strange I can't explain it...

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          • Maybe it was that you werent confident enough to think that you could get the feminine type

            So you went with what you could get which was the guys who were into sports, who happened to be muscular?

            Because you could relate to them better?

            Im just guessing here

            But you said you dated a girl before, so i dont know

            Maybe you were just afraid to try anything sexual with her?

            It makes sense though since your attracted to masculinity, that you would find girls a turn off, femininity anyway, because girls are naturally feminine

            thats why you find flat chested girls somewhat attractive, because they resemble masculinity, and thats what your apparently attracted to right now

            so it makes sense

            your saying you used to be attracted the feminine type and now your attracted to the masculine type

            which proves that your attraction CAN change

            i might have a idea about what is going on, im not 100% sure, but are you really masculine yourself?

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            • I don't I just slowly lost interest in them. My confidence is kinda average low, but only because people over complement me too much on anything I do or any facial features I have, to the point that I think I'm not actually attractive and they're just being over supportive. Because they are the lgbt, a very supportive group.

              I also noticed some feminine guys were intimated by me if I asked them if they were gay, because they would often mistaken me for a straight guy looking to bash some guys or some other stupid thought. And I can't flirt for shit, only joke around.

              So yeah I guess I went with what wouldn't run away from me. Or that I could get more easily, since masc usually like to date other masc (lgbt stereyotype).

              Yeah that makes sense. I find my self to be between neutral and masculine. My bf's is like the Alpha wolf he's scared/hates butterflies why I find them to be attractive bugs. When I got him flowers for valentine's day last year he told me to get him something he can use. And he can't clean anything and is shit at cooking. Plus he's a gym freak likes to focus on lifting weights, while I'm a jogger and lift occasionally.

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              • Hmmm

                what if it really just is that you look good?

                Ohhh I see what your saying, yea

                It doesnt matter if they try to be supportive anyway, you can still have lots of confidence

                Aww, sounds like they obviously didnt understand where you were coming from
                It was either their own misinterpretation, or it was how you sounded

                Im sure you could flirt if you really wanted to :)

                Eh I just say it depends on the person

                There are actually feminine guys who like to date masculine guys

                So it does sound like you are a little feminine

                I just think you should try out feminine guys again

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