IIN that I really don't want to be gay?

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  • Being gay is, objectively, pretty terrible, and I think most honest gay people will agree. Life is easier and better if you're straight: gay couples can't reproduce and the culture is crap. One-night stands, rampant disease—and in rural areas, it's basically a club where everyone screws everyone. Not exactly romance.

    But you can't change who you are. You can blame your father for not being a positive male role model, or whatever, but you have to accept who you are. And don't put up with an abusive boyfriend.

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    • You just stated the other reason why I don't want to be gay. It's not as fun as the media makes it to be.

      I always wondered if me not having a father had to do with it. But then again it probably wouldn't have made a difference anyway.
      Yeah maybe I should leave him, but I'd just feel like shit after since it was my idea for him to come out to his family last Christmas when he finally let me meet them. I was getting tired of pretending to be a room mate, and lying to his family who his really close to. Had to try to explain to his mum once why there was only one double bed in the apartment.

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    • Wrong. Its a choice

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      • Attraction isn't something we consciously control.

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        • i used to be straight

          never liked dick

          was turned off by it

          later i saw cute feminine boys in porn

          my perspective changed from thinking about boys, which would turn me off, to thinking about them in a feminine way

          my perspective changed, and then i became open to them

          (curious)

          and i got into them only because they were feminine

          i still like feminine parts of either girls or boys, so yes that has never changed

          but thanks to me being open to feminine boys, my thoughts have changed

          i know its just mainly in porn, which is where the most feminine of boys has come from

          society is usually mostly masculine, with the guys being masculine

          porn has allowed a doorway of open-minded into something that rarely occurs in society

          sure it is possible for guys to be feminine, but thats not usually how it works

          except in boys, not men

          ive never changed my attraction to femininity, but im more open-minded about the same sex

          porn can make more people open-minded about being gay, and the elites are trying to make guys more feminine

          which is not natural. this is not how society is supposed to be

          but still, if i wanted to change my attraction, i probaley still could

          so your saying, even though i dont like big muscular dudes, i cant start being attracted to them if i try?

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          • Uhh, if you can start being attracted to big muscular dudes if you want to, that means you've always been attracted to them...you're just repressing it, which is common among homophobic bigots. The anger and hatred, which you disguise with this "it's not natural" bullshit, is a result of the jealousy you feel about them accepting who they are and the anger at yourself for feeling that way.

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            • thats retarded

              stop being retarded

              IM NOT attracted to muscular guys, but what if my attraction changes?

              why is it impossible for my attraction to change?

              why?

              apparently the op of this question has changed his attraction to feminine guys, to masculine guys

              why is this impossible, and why is this such a impossibility to your mind?

              its not that im repressing it, omfg

              thats like saying you're secretly into banging dogs, and if your not your just repressing your attraction

              that argument is retarded as dogshit

              attraction can change

              end of story

              and btw its just not natural if you understand the ying yang of attraction

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        • it is feeling i agree with you

          but you can choose

          just like you can choose not to drink soda even though you may like it

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          • Do you realize you just proved your idiotic "it's a choice" post completely wrong?

            Being gay isn't about what you do, it's how you feel. And you just admitted that you don't choose how you feel or what you like, you can only choose what you do about it. But whether you do it or not is irrelevant, the feelings are still there. If you're attracted to your own gender, whether you act on it or not, you're gay. (Or bi if you're attracted to both, obviously.) That means, by your own admission, being gay isn't a choice.

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            • i understand its both feeling, and at the same time, it is also what you choose

              just because you get horny to something, doesnt mean you have to act on it is what im saying

              with my analogy

              who says its not a choice either?

              why can i not choose my attraction? i am my own person. i make my own decisions

              i used to be straight

              im bisexual now

              its a choice

              explain that

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          • Someone hack your account or did you overdo the alcohol at a Superbowl Party?

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            • are you saying that you can choose is ridiculous?

              or my analogy?

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      • Then why can't I change? I tried it with girls so many times. Even dated a pretty hot girl in high school when I used to play basketball. I just end up being more attracted to males, because I've been avoiding them the whole time.

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        • because you THINK you cant change

          when you really can

          its all state of mind

          of course if you think you cant change then you arent even allowing yourself a chance to possibly change

          you got to have the attitude that you CAN, because the truth is you really can

          im bisexual right now. yet im straight at heart. always like feminine-ness, always will

          even with guys they gotta be feminine or its gonna be a turn off

          and i want to become straight again one day, i have felt so straight that i couldnt even look at dicks in pictures

          it was nasty

          and now im open to it lol

          it is a choice. i used to be straight. i changed once, i can change back

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          • When I was in high school I used to be attracted to the femine type, but they also had to be small/short, so they could closely resembled a girl. But now I'm more attracted to the masculine type, since I find them to be rarer in the lgbt community that I went to with some friends. And being more on the neutral/masc side than feminine I could relate to them better, like chatting about sports, games and etc.

            I don't know why but feminity isn't attractive to me anymore, and it never drew me in when it was a feminine girl. My first full on crush was with one of my friends on my basket ball team, when I was 15, I learnt he was bi later and he almost got with me. But then he got kicked of the team for smoking on school grounds and he kinda fucked his life up and dropped out of school. He stopped contacting me too.

            If I try to break my attraction towards men some how, I still have the problem of trying to build up attraction towards women. Tried porn too but I found my self taking no interest the women there either. Only some seemed to draw my attention if the were flat chested and not too curvy.

            I'm so strange I can't explain it...

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            • Maybe it was that you werent confident enough to think that you could get the feminine type

              So you went with what you could get which was the guys who were into sports, who happened to be muscular?

              Because you could relate to them better?

              Im just guessing here

              But you said you dated a girl before, so i dont know

              Maybe you were just afraid to try anything sexual with her?

              It makes sense though since your attracted to masculinity, that you would find girls a turn off, femininity anyway, because girls are naturally feminine

              thats why you find flat chested girls somewhat attractive, because they resemble masculinity, and thats what your apparently attracted to right now

              so it makes sense

              your saying you used to be attracted the feminine type and now your attracted to the masculine type

              which proves that your attraction CAN change

              i might have a idea about what is going on, im not 100% sure, but are you really masculine yourself?

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              • I don't I just slowly lost interest in them. My confidence is kinda average low, but only because people over complement me too much on anything I do or any facial features I have, to the point that I think I'm not actually attractive and they're just being over supportive. Because they are the lgbt, a very supportive group.

                I also noticed some feminine guys were intimated by me if I asked them if they were gay, because they would often mistaken me for a straight guy looking to bash some guys or some other stupid thought. And I can't flirt for shit, only joke around.

                So yeah I guess I went with what wouldn't run away from me. Or that I could get more easily, since masc usually like to date other masc (lgbt stereyotype).

                Yeah that makes sense. I find my self to be between neutral and masculine. My bf's is like the Alpha wolf he's scared/hates butterflies why I find them to be attractive bugs. When I got him flowers for valentine's day last year he told me to get him something he can use. And he can't clean anything and is shit at cooking. Plus he's a gym freak likes to focus on lifting weights, while I'm a jogger and lift occasionally.

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