I have to disagree. I don't think feminists or anyone get to say "Oh, you believe in something? Then you must believe in "our" version of what it is you believe".
People can support equality and not be a feminist. A feminist is believing in achieving equality by facing issues that don't even exist in manners they think they should be dealt.
You can be for equality and "not" think that the things to reach equality that feminists believe should be done, are even issues.
No, you really don't. Egalitarians are for equality, they are not for the feminist version of equality in which feminists believe things should be targeted and fixed their way. Again, what feminists believe must be done to achieve equality is not what everyone else supporting equality believes.
Feminists have no right to say "you are one of us because we say so".
"Feminism" is "the advocacy of women's rights on the grounds of political, social, and economic equality to men". "Feminist" is a word describing someone who supports feminism (as defined by the previous definition). So feminist is a descriptive word, and if that word describes you then you are feminist whether you like it or not. Feminism is a wide label, and if you fit anywhere under that wide label you are a type of feminist.
What feminism claims it is and what it is are two different things. A group isn't determined by the words that explain them, they are determined by the actions the group makes.
Once again, I explain. Just because both groups claim to be about equality does not mean they agree about the issues that need to be talked about or addressed to achieve equality.
It's the same reasoning as the word "fag", once used to describe a bundle of sticks, it is now a vulgar word for homosexuals. Words change, and it is getting even more known that feminism is not the definition from sources you took the definition from.
The definition of feminism is in black and white terms from your source, it doesn't go in to depth of what it is completely about, so the definition is pretty much pointless. It's like saying being Christian and being Muslim are the same because they worship something and have that one similarity of worshiping something.
So, as I said, feminists have no right to brand someone with the label feminism, because they may believe in equal rights, but that doesn't mean they agree with the measures feminists takes or believe in feminist theory in any shape or form.
I gave you a dictionary definition, not "what feminism claims to be". I thought you loved the dictionary, since you use it all the time to support your own arguments.
"That doesn't mean they agree with the measures feminists takes or believe in feminist theory in any shape or form."
Feminism is a broad church. Not all feminists have to think the same way, just as not all Christians and Muslims have to think the same way. It's deliberately a vague and general term used to encompass a wide range of related but different ideas. Perhaps it isn't a very useful definition in describing much specifically, but it isn't intended to be used to describe specifics.
Definitions of things that do not have capability over its own presentation are different from definitions of groups that does have the capability to change its own presentation.
Not sure what the last part is for. Yes, there are feminists that don't think the same way, that doesn't exactly show what I said wrong.
Is it normal that I often find feminist women attractive?
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I have to disagree. I don't think feminists or anyone get to say "Oh, you believe in something? Then you must believe in "our" version of what it is you believe".
People can support equality and not be a feminist. A feminist is believing in achieving equality by facing issues that don't even exist in manners they think they should be dealt.
You can be for equality and "not" think that the things to reach equality that feminists believe should be done, are even issues.
No, you really don't. Egalitarians are for equality, they are not for the feminist version of equality in which feminists believe things should be targeted and fixed their way. Again, what feminists believe must be done to achieve equality is not what everyone else supporting equality believes.
Feminists have no right to say "you are one of us because we say so".
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"Feminism" is "the advocacy of women's rights on the grounds of political, social, and economic equality to men". "Feminist" is a word describing someone who supports feminism (as defined by the previous definition). So feminist is a descriptive word, and if that word describes you then you are feminist whether you like it or not. Feminism is a wide label, and if you fit anywhere under that wide label you are a type of feminist.
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What feminism claims it is and what it is are two different things. A group isn't determined by the words that explain them, they are determined by the actions the group makes.
Once again, I explain. Just because both groups claim to be about equality does not mean they agree about the issues that need to be talked about or addressed to achieve equality.
It's the same reasoning as the word "fag", once used to describe a bundle of sticks, it is now a vulgar word for homosexuals. Words change, and it is getting even more known that feminism is not the definition from sources you took the definition from.
The definition of feminism is in black and white terms from your source, it doesn't go in to depth of what it is completely about, so the definition is pretty much pointless. It's like saying being Christian and being Muslim are the same because they worship something and have that one similarity of worshiping something.
So, as I said, feminists have no right to brand someone with the label feminism, because they may believe in equal rights, but that doesn't mean they agree with the measures feminists takes or believe in feminist theory in any shape or form.
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I gave you a dictionary definition, not "what feminism claims to be". I thought you loved the dictionary, since you use it all the time to support your own arguments.
"That doesn't mean they agree with the measures feminists takes or believe in feminist theory in any shape or form."
Feminism is a broad church. Not all feminists have to think the same way, just as not all Christians and Muslims have to think the same way. It's deliberately a vague and general term used to encompass a wide range of related but different ideas. Perhaps it isn't a very useful definition in describing much specifically, but it isn't intended to be used to describe specifics.
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Definitions of things that do not have capability over its own presentation are different from definitions of groups that does have the capability to change its own presentation.
Not sure what the last part is for. Yes, there are feminists that don't think the same way, that doesn't exactly show what I said wrong.