Although your quotation is not a direct quotation, it is similar in form and meaning to various verses (parts of verses) found in a particular religious manuscript, that might be offensive to some persons whether religious or not religious, thus creating a division in society. You should have cited that it is a variant form from the author(s) that originally created this idea. (Give credit where credit is due).
I am not creating division, i'm only one person. I do not believe in any religious affiliation either, sir (or ma'am). Anyways, I've heard it (the quote) almost everywhere, so I am most likely not the only person to misquote this anyways. And I thought I was an asshole.
I appreciate your honesty, and especially your neutral standpoint!
I do not know whether you are religious or not religious (I apologise for bringing division into this conversation. I think that we can all agree that there are people who are religious and people who are not religious), but I think that it is important for people to understand why people who are not religious continue to spread religious thoughts, ideas or concepts around. Inversely, I think it is important for people who are religious to understand why they sometimes attempt to impose their particular set of beliefs on others, thus often creating divisions in society, and the negative effects thereof. Also, if a society becomes almost completely ingrained in one particular set of beliefs, it only leads to stagnation of thought, and consequently to a backwards looking society, instead of looking towards the future.
I think that all too often we put the blame for these behaviours on others, rather than ourselves (myself included), or we make the excuse that I'm only one person and that if I change my behaviour it will not change anything. I disagree with the latter, and I think that we should all make an effort to stop these divisive behaviours through our continued rote repetition of these thoughts, ideas and concepts. This should not mean that we should not be able to discuss old ideas or concepts, but rather we should learn to discuss them in a non-divisive way.
I also appreciate your obviously well thought out and interesting yet also conveying message. But try this for a change: be honest. If somebody does something that they know is wrong (but maybe not morally wrong to them) open up to it and no put blame. Then all of our heads would be cleared. And though I am not religious, I try not to impose my lack of beliefs onto those who do believe, there really is no need for confrontation.
If this works for you, that is fine. I , however, have a different viewpoint. I agree with you that we should not blame one another, because that is what we have been doing, and this has led to tensions and divisions in society. I think that we have been blaming everyone but ourselves (myself included). The problem I see with your argument, is that if everyone accepts things that are wrong, those in the wrong would never change their behaviour.
I would like to add, that not all religious ideas are necessarily wrong. Without those religious ideas, I would not
have been able to understand the importance of the shadow creatures in our development as a civilization.
Right, there is no need for confrontation, good words.
Is it normal that I'm tired of anti-Christians?
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That is not what that misquoted quote means at all, look into you will find the true meaning.
Although your quotation is not a direct quotation, it is similar in form and meaning to various verses (parts of verses) found in a particular religious manuscript, that might be offensive to some persons whether religious or not religious, thus creating a division in society. You should have cited that it is a variant form from the author(s) that originally created this idea. (Give credit where credit is due).
Why are you creating division in society?
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I am not creating division, i'm only one person. I do not believe in any religious affiliation either, sir (or ma'am). Anyways, I've heard it (the quote) almost everywhere, so I am most likely not the only person to misquote this anyways. And I thought I was an asshole.
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I appreciate your honesty, and especially your neutral standpoint!
I do not know whether you are religious or not religious (I apologise for bringing division into this conversation. I think that we can all agree that there are people who are religious and people who are not religious), but I think that it is important for people to understand why people who are not religious continue to spread religious thoughts, ideas or concepts around. Inversely, I think it is important for people who are religious to understand why they sometimes attempt to impose their particular set of beliefs on others, thus often creating divisions in society, and the negative effects thereof. Also, if a society becomes almost completely ingrained in one particular set of beliefs, it only leads to stagnation of thought, and consequently to a backwards looking society, instead of looking towards the future.
I think that all too often we put the blame for these behaviours on others, rather than ourselves (myself included), or we make the excuse that I'm only one person and that if I change my behaviour it will not change anything. I disagree with the latter, and I think that we should all make an effort to stop these divisive behaviours through our continued rote repetition of these thoughts, ideas and concepts. This should not mean that we should not be able to discuss old ideas or concepts, but rather we should learn to discuss them in a non-divisive way.
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I also appreciate your obviously well thought out and interesting yet also conveying message. But try this for a change: be honest. If somebody does something that they know is wrong (but maybe not morally wrong to them) open up to it and no put blame. Then all of our heads would be cleared. And though I am not religious, I try not to impose my lack of beliefs onto those who do believe, there really is no need for confrontation.
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If this works for you, that is fine. I , however, have a different viewpoint. I agree with you that we should not blame one another, because that is what we have been doing, and this has led to tensions and divisions in society. I think that we have been blaming everyone but ourselves (myself included). The problem I see with your argument, is that if everyone accepts things that are wrong, those in the wrong would never change their behaviour.
I would like to add, that not all religious ideas are necessarily wrong. Without those religious ideas, I would not
have been able to understand the importance of the shadow creatures in our development as a civilization.
Right, there is no need for confrontation, good words.