The way women novels portray the ideal man is offensive to the average joe as well. They're always tall, dark, handsome, rich and with a full head of hair.
Idealization of men is completely different from objectification and sexualization. Also men aren't systematically oppressed or brainwashed into believing their worth is tied to their appearance or that the only way to be happy is having a woman in their lives.
And don't bother with the "Patriarchy hurts men too". I KNOW Patriarchy hurts men too, just not in the same dehumanizing way it hurts women
And there's one more thing: If men don't like to see themselves as tall, dark, handsome, and rich there are literally, millions of other stories where they are everything else: poor, ugly, body-builders, slim and strong, fat and solid, brave, cowardly, evil, good, stupid, lazy, confident, hard-working. etc, etc, etc.
But women? Women are always conventionally attractive, and their personality is either kind and motherly, a vixen, shallow and stupid or childish and stupid. And they're all interested in shoes.
What I mean, is that men have options, they can be whatever they want, but women? No we have to be wives and mothers and be attractive
For the good of humanity I hope that a submissive, big-breated woman with no distinctive personality traits, interests besides stereotypical "female" roles and whose entire existence revolves around men is not the Ideal Woman; at least not for All men.
And you're ignoring part of my comment, this is systematic and pervasive, you get the same message from all angles: "Be Kind" "Be Quiet" "Be Sexy" "Skinny is the only way to be Sexy" "Be a mother" "Be a wife" "Be Heterosexual" "You're only happy if you're married" "You're only happy if you are at home raising your kids" "You must depend on men" "Men are stronger than Women" "Men are smarter than women" "Women are more sensitive than men" "Look good all the time" "If you're ugly you're worthless" "Be sexually available to men". And so much more!
And yes, I know men have a lot of pressures too, but again, it's not the same: Men can be fat and hairy and still be considered attractive, men standards of beauty aren't as unrealistic, men can speak their minds and not be called crazy and oversensitive, men can have all the sexual partners they want and not be shamed for it. Women can't
Is it normal that i lost interest in real girls?
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The way women novels portray the ideal man is offensive to the average joe as well. They're always tall, dark, handsome, rich and with a full head of hair.
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Idealization of men is completely different from objectification and sexualization. Also men aren't systematically oppressed or brainwashed into believing their worth is tied to their appearance or that the only way to be happy is having a woman in their lives.
And don't bother with the "Patriarchy hurts men too". I KNOW Patriarchy hurts men too, just not in the same dehumanizing way it hurts women
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Typical feminist bs. Idealisation of men is ok but idealisation of women is objectifying them.
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Huge wall of text, let's break it:
And there's one more thing: If men don't like to see themselves as tall, dark, handsome, and rich there are literally, millions of other stories where they are everything else: poor, ugly, body-builders, slim and strong, fat and solid, brave, cowardly, evil, good, stupid, lazy, confident, hard-working. etc, etc, etc.
But women? Women are always conventionally attractive, and their personality is either kind and motherly, a vixen, shallow and stupid or childish and stupid. And they're all interested in shoes.
What I mean, is that men have options, they can be whatever they want, but women? No we have to be wives and mothers and be attractive
For the good of humanity I hope that a submissive, big-breated woman with no distinctive personality traits, interests besides stereotypical "female" roles and whose entire existence revolves around men is not the Ideal Woman; at least not for All men.
And you're ignoring part of my comment, this is systematic and pervasive, you get the same message from all angles: "Be Kind" "Be Quiet" "Be Sexy" "Skinny is the only way to be Sexy" "Be a mother" "Be a wife" "Be Heterosexual" "You're only happy if you're married" "You're only happy if you are at home raising your kids" "You must depend on men" "Men are stronger than Women" "Men are smarter than women" "Women are more sensitive than men" "Look good all the time" "If you're ugly you're worthless" "Be sexually available to men". And so much more!
And yes, I know men have a lot of pressures too, but again, it's not the same: Men can be fat and hairy and still be considered attractive, men standards of beauty aren't as unrealistic, men can speak their minds and not be called crazy and oversensitive, men can have all the sexual partners they want and not be shamed for it. Women can't