Yes, maybe they "were" discouraged back then but it's certainly not the case today, and still men are mostly the ones in those fields. Still, men are the vast majority of builders, still men are the vast majority of sewage workers, etc, etc.
So yes, while discouraged from doing it back then they still have not participated as much as men in fields that need maintained to keep civilization fueled.
That said I'm not saying they should be obligated to do so or that it makes them lazy for not doing it, what I am saying is that if we are going to devalue men then the work men are more happy to do than women to keep our modern day lives fueled should and will be brought up.
Well if you think of women in a derogatory way then that's your flaw, don't project it on to the rest of us.
Yes I do, and I am fully in support of women being liberated from their metaphorical shackles from their treatment even if men and women in those cultures agree with the culture that subjects women to such treatment, everybody will agree there. That said, if you're going to try and use the issues of women in other countries to represent the lives of women in places like the US, UK, etc, then I'll be happy to tell you that you're using the suffering of those women to make a point for "women's issues" in places that women don't suffer from such issues.
IIN that I kind of just fucking hate men?
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Yes, maybe they "were" discouraged back then but it's certainly not the case today, and still men are mostly the ones in those fields. Still, men are the vast majority of builders, still men are the vast majority of sewage workers, etc, etc.
So yes, while discouraged from doing it back then they still have not participated as much as men in fields that need maintained to keep civilization fueled.
That said I'm not saying they should be obligated to do so or that it makes them lazy for not doing it, what I am saying is that if we are going to devalue men then the work men are more happy to do than women to keep our modern day lives fueled should and will be brought up.
Well if you think of women in a derogatory way then that's your flaw, don't project it on to the rest of us.
Yes I do, and I am fully in support of women being liberated from their metaphorical shackles from their treatment even if men and women in those cultures agree with the culture that subjects women to such treatment, everybody will agree there. That said, if you're going to try and use the issues of women in other countries to represent the lives of women in places like the US, UK, etc, then I'll be happy to tell you that you're using the suffering of those women to make a point for "women's issues" in places that women don't suffer from such issues.