So I can convince people to like something they don't, but I can't convince then not to like something they do? Seems like double-standards to me.
And religion and sexuality are themes like any other, people have just chosen to be very touchy-feely about them, but that doesn't sanctify them or anything.
No, not double standards. The key word is TRY. You have the right to voice your opinion, to express and explain your opinion, to even justify your opinion. But you cannot change someone elses opinion. Have you ever actually managed to change someone elses opinion? like, halfway through an argument they say "you know what, you're right."? Most people would say no.
What right do you have to tell someone that what they like is wrong? saying to someone "your way sucks, what you like is wrong. What I like is way better, you should do it my way" is rude and unsuccessful.
Religion and sexuality are issues because you aren't just saying "hey I like the colour pink", you're saying "who you ARE and/or what you BELIEVE in is WRONG."
You cannnot change your sexuality, despite what some people wish/believe, so any attempt to 'convert' someone to your sexuality is just hurtful.
People CAN change religions, but because that's a matter of belief you shouldn't try and convert people to your religion.
Well, I'm TRYING to convince people to stop having sex/valuing it so much, and failing at it. So what?
I swear to you I see no difference between the color thing and the sexuality/religion thing. And just so you don't think I'm THAT stupid, I'm not trying to make anyone change their sexual orientation, because I know that's impossible, I'm trying to make people change their sexual behavior/the position that sex occupies in their priorities list.
A lot of Christians say their mission is to convert everyone, just sayin'.
Well why are you trying to make people stop having sex? should a couple in a relationship stop? should a married couple stop? should friends with benefits stop? what is your angle here and why do you care what others value? why are you telling other people they shouldn't value the things they do?
A lot of christians are stupid bigoted assholes, just sayin'.
(not all obviously, some are great human beings. Converters are assholes though.)
Is it normal that I have no sex drive?
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So I can convince people to like something they don't, but I can't convince then not to like something they do? Seems like double-standards to me.
And religion and sexuality are themes like any other, people have just chosen to be very touchy-feely about them, but that doesn't sanctify them or anything.
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No, not double standards. The key word is TRY. You have the right to voice your opinion, to express and explain your opinion, to even justify your opinion. But you cannot change someone elses opinion. Have you ever actually managed to change someone elses opinion? like, halfway through an argument they say "you know what, you're right."? Most people would say no.
What right do you have to tell someone that what they like is wrong? saying to someone "your way sucks, what you like is wrong. What I like is way better, you should do it my way" is rude and unsuccessful.
Religion and sexuality are issues because you aren't just saying "hey I like the colour pink", you're saying "who you ARE and/or what you BELIEVE in is WRONG."
You cannnot change your sexuality, despite what some people wish/believe, so any attempt to 'convert' someone to your sexuality is just hurtful.
People CAN change religions, but because that's a matter of belief you shouldn't try and convert people to your religion.
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Well, I'm TRYING to convince people to stop having sex/valuing it so much, and failing at it. So what?
I swear to you I see no difference between the color thing and the sexuality/religion thing. And just so you don't think I'm THAT stupid, I'm not trying to make anyone change their sexual orientation, because I know that's impossible, I'm trying to make people change their sexual behavior/the position that sex occupies in their priorities list.
A lot of Christians say their mission is to convert everyone, just sayin'.
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Well why are you trying to make people stop having sex? should a couple in a relationship stop? should a married couple stop? should friends with benefits stop? what is your angle here and why do you care what others value? why are you telling other people they shouldn't value the things they do?
A lot of christians are stupid bigoted assholes, just sayin'.
(not all obviously, some are great human beings. Converters are assholes though.)
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To put it simply: sex with no love = using someone as a sex toy; sex with love = animalistic and degrading form of "expressing love".
'Kay, I might be a stupid bigoted asshole, then, even though I'm not religious :D
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sex with love = way of physically expressing love between two people
sex without love = MUTUAL and (hopefully) consentual. Totally legal and not anyone's business but between the two consenting adults.
You might be, hard to gauge how bigoted someone is without meeting them in person.
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How is it a way of expressing love? Why choose sex over any other way of expressing love?
So mutual, consensual murder is okay to you?