i would call you crazy but i just read some of the stuff you were talking about and i see its well though and something that truly does arouse you body and mind. good for you sir
It's cool, not many people believe it's real, even psychology doesn't recognize that pyrophilia as real, but I can tell you that for me it's very real. And you can call me crazy, from most people's point of view I am. I'm an eccentric individual even without fire considered, I live like 100 years ago aside from a solar panel and a wee little tablet, I grow food, chop wood, and do everything in my life on a human scale with human power and patience.
Its a little too 'inflicting of actual pain/injury' for my liking. I'm definitely not into physical sadism.
Plus it looks too enjoyable (ie. not frightening) for the fire fetishist, which means my 'kick' is gone... although you'd be the best one to explain how it does feel for you. ;)
I admit I'm quite fascinated by the fetish... is there an element of surrendering yourself up to something more powerful than you (something that could kill you)?
I'm tempted to write a little story about a human/fire-elemental relationship now. ;)
That's a good way to put it, surrendering myself to fire, but it's more than just that, although it's a big part of it.
It's not actually all that painful, I get a few red marks and smaller blisters, I get burned worse cooking than I do being on fire, and although I do enjoy the pain of it, for me it's not a sadism thing.
And yes, I do enjoy being on fire, and as far as fear, it's not like what I used to feel, but there's some there before I light up. Once I'm on fire though, it's transcendental, I go beyond fear and all emotion, complete detachment, I'm set free from everything, including myself. It's sexual, but it's also way more than that, for me it's deeply symbolic and meaningful in so many ways, depending on the context of the situation. While I do use it to overcome fear, I think i'd be able to convince myself to indulge in my fear if I put the fire in someone else's control.
I do wonder if its almost a symbolic enactment of union with 'God' (I use God rather metaphorically). The burning up of the physical self, and the loss of the ego, to find the untouchable core.
I am fascinated... hence the theorising. ;) And there is something about it I find alluring too, although trying to analyse what, heh.
How do you think you would feel if the fire got out of control and seriously started to burn you? Would fear/survival kick in to the max? Or would part of you be tempted to allow it? Indeed, does part of you wish for it? Is there an element of redemption in it?
Wow, your theory is pretty accurate, i'd say. It does have to do with loss of physical self, ego, and detachment. It takes me to a place where I'm one with the element of fire.
The thing is though, fire is so powerfully moving to me that while ultimately in the end it is about symbolically giving up my physical self for one or several of many reasons, the journey to that detachment does move me in itself, through such a range of feelings, emotions, and states of being. I also feel that when I do it for someone else, it's really saying something more than words ever could.
As for the allure, it calls me to it, begs to play with me, and embraces me fully and passionately, more fully and passionately than I've ever had from a woman. I do feel that when a woman sets me on fire though, that's her fire she's giving me to embrace as if she became that fire and surrounded me.
I've more than thought about how it would be for it to get out of control, and that's another part I enjoy, the loss or lack of control. I appreciate not being in control, in life I'm a leader, teacher, organizer, and I always end up in that role in group settings like work, hiking and camping, and in life in general. when it comes to lead, follow, or get out of the way, I stand aside and allow others to assume leadership, but it always seems to come back to me. I'd rather get out of the way and lead by example. I'm effective at keeping order and control in my life, and when things get out of control, it's fun and exciting. So, if things got out of control i'd enjoy it, and i'd enjoy the burns I get too, but i'd listen to reason and regain control if possible. If reason dictated that it was my fate to die in a fire, i'd gladly accept it and be thankful that i'd get to have that experience.
I do want to experience really burning to death, but I'm not willing to die just to feel that.
And as for true fear, i'd like to find out if I'm capable of feeling the kind of terror that burning to death would be. My survival instinct would kick in, but I still don't believe i'd really feel the fear I wish I could. I'd probably either succeed in calmly putting myself out before I got to fear, or realizing there is no chance of survival, and accepting the flames fully, enjoying it all, and indulging in it.
This doesn't mean I want to die, only that when I do have to go, I really wish I could spend my final moments in such a wonderful way. I want to live to be 90 and still playing with fire.
I oftentimes feel a temptation to go 'all the way', to just let the fire have me, partly, because then i'd really be giving myself to fire, as fire has given me some of the most meaningful experiences of my existence. I owe fire my physical body when I'm done with it.
I'm not so sure about an element of redemption, but I can say that I do experince divinity, walking the path of fire, I touch the hand of god. It's a spiritual gateway to the realm of the divine, and can be described as an act of faith, devotion, and the offering of a prayer. I don't consider myself to be of any religious group, as I live by the teachings of all the great masters whose knowldge survives. I don't believe in a god though, or a goddess, but that god is the collective oneness, so when I say I touch the hand of god, it's a metaphor for being one with all that is one anyways.
The fetish is only a part of the whole fire expereince, but as far as my sexuality goes, it's my main focus, I do like a lot of other things that people have fetishes for, but fire is so far and beyond all else that most everything else is mildly arousing at best.
Thanks for taking me seriously, most people think I'm a troll or I'm full of crap, and it's frustrating as all hell when it's nearly impossible to have a conversation like this about it, it feels good to talk about, as I end up learning a lot about myself in doing so, thank you.
Feel free to ask whatever you want, I'll answer as best I can.
I'm taking some time to process/think about the things you just said... its also stirred up some interesting self-insights. Part of me really understands it, and thats surprising me. I'm also finding some interesting parallels. Fear, especially extreme fear is also a transcendental experience for me.
The odd thing is that when it comes to my own fetish, I'm not so much watching men in a voyeuristic way, as I am intensely empathising with them. I'm actually feeling the fear with them (complete with some very intense physical reactions).
The reason I watch men in fear instead of just directly experiencing fear myself is because I feel one step further removed from 'God' as a female (thanks to religious brain-washing as a child). I no longer seriously believe that (nor believe in a biblical God anymore), but shame sticks.
Men just seem to me to be purer, more 'divine' creatures (however irrational I know that is), and so by empathising with their terror, I reach greater levels of transcendance (it bypasses the feelings of female 'unworthiness').
I definitely want to hear more from you, as soon as I finish processing. :)
Is it normal that I have a fetish for seeing men terrified?
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Nice. Wanna be the one that lights this kind of fire? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXgvt3wUNH4
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that video is fake. you, as in your skin and clothes, aren't on fire. plus you dont seem too worried about it.
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The first video I posted was a pile of flaming logs over my lower body. Some of my clothes were alight.
Here you go, here's clothes on fire for real
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlgO691xPtU
And here's some naked wet skin aflame
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZRLIN8e23Y
Or how about this with a bit of gel that provides some minor protection, but still gets hot
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i would call you crazy but i just read some of the stuff you were talking about and i see its well though and something that truly does arouse you body and mind. good for you sir
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It's cool, not many people believe it's real, even psychology doesn't recognize that pyrophilia as real, but I can tell you that for me it's very real. And you can call me crazy, from most people's point of view I am. I'm an eccentric individual even without fire considered, I live like 100 years ago aside from a solar panel and a wee little tablet, I grow food, chop wood, and do everything in my life on a human scale with human power and patience.
well thought out*** in place of "well though"
Its a little too 'inflicting of actual pain/injury' for my liking. I'm definitely not into physical sadism.
Plus it looks too enjoyable (ie. not frightening) for the fire fetishist, which means my 'kick' is gone... although you'd be the best one to explain how it does feel for you. ;)
I admit I'm quite fascinated by the fetish... is there an element of surrendering yourself up to something more powerful than you (something that could kill you)?
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That's a good way to put it, surrendering myself to fire, but it's more than just that, although it's a big part of it.
It's not actually all that painful, I get a few red marks and smaller blisters, I get burned worse cooking than I do being on fire, and although I do enjoy the pain of it, for me it's not a sadism thing.
And yes, I do enjoy being on fire, and as far as fear, it's not like what I used to feel, but there's some there before I light up. Once I'm on fire though, it's transcendental, I go beyond fear and all emotion, complete detachment, I'm set free from everything, including myself. It's sexual, but it's also way more than that, for me it's deeply symbolic and meaningful in so many ways, depending on the context of the situation. While I do use it to overcome fear, I think i'd be able to convince myself to indulge in my fear if I put the fire in someone else's control.
If you want to know more, ask me about it.
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I do wonder if its almost a symbolic enactment of union with 'God' (I use God rather metaphorically). The burning up of the physical self, and the loss of the ego, to find the untouchable core.
I am fascinated... hence the theorising. ;) And there is something about it I find alluring too, although trying to analyse what, heh.
How do you think you would feel if the fire got out of control and seriously started to burn you? Would fear/survival kick in to the max? Or would part of you be tempted to allow it? Indeed, does part of you wish for it? Is there an element of redemption in it?
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Wow, your theory is pretty accurate, i'd say. It does have to do with loss of physical self, ego, and detachment. It takes me to a place where I'm one with the element of fire.
The thing is though, fire is so powerfully moving to me that while ultimately in the end it is about symbolically giving up my physical self for one or several of many reasons, the journey to that detachment does move me in itself, through such a range of feelings, emotions, and states of being. I also feel that when I do it for someone else, it's really saying something more than words ever could.
As for the allure, it calls me to it, begs to play with me, and embraces me fully and passionately, more fully and passionately than I've ever had from a woman. I do feel that when a woman sets me on fire though, that's her fire she's giving me to embrace as if she became that fire and surrounded me.
I've more than thought about how it would be for it to get out of control, and that's another part I enjoy, the loss or lack of control. I appreciate not being in control, in life I'm a leader, teacher, organizer, and I always end up in that role in group settings like work, hiking and camping, and in life in general. when it comes to lead, follow, or get out of the way, I stand aside and allow others to assume leadership, but it always seems to come back to me. I'd rather get out of the way and lead by example. I'm effective at keeping order and control in my life, and when things get out of control, it's fun and exciting. So, if things got out of control i'd enjoy it, and i'd enjoy the burns I get too, but i'd listen to reason and regain control if possible. If reason dictated that it was my fate to die in a fire, i'd gladly accept it and be thankful that i'd get to have that experience.
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I do want to experience really burning to death, but I'm not willing to die just to feel that.
And as for true fear, i'd like to find out if I'm capable of feeling the kind of terror that burning to death would be. My survival instinct would kick in, but I still don't believe i'd really feel the fear I wish I could. I'd probably either succeed in calmly putting myself out before I got to fear, or realizing there is no chance of survival, and accepting the flames fully, enjoying it all, and indulging in it.
This doesn't mean I want to die, only that when I do have to go, I really wish I could spend my final moments in such a wonderful way. I want to live to be 90 and still playing with fire.
I oftentimes feel a temptation to go 'all the way', to just let the fire have me, partly, because then i'd really be giving myself to fire, as fire has given me some of the most meaningful experiences of my existence. I owe fire my physical body when I'm done with it.
I'm not so sure about an element of redemption, but I can say that I do experince divinity, walking the path of fire, I touch the hand of god. It's a spiritual gateway to the realm of the divine, and can be described as an act of faith, devotion, and the offering of a prayer. I don't consider myself to be of any religious group, as I live by the teachings of all the great masters whose knowldge survives. I don't believe in a god though, or a goddess, but that god is the collective oneness, so when I say I touch the hand of god, it's a metaphor for being one with all that is one anyways.
The fetish is only a part of the whole fire expereince, but as far as my sexuality goes, it's my main focus, I do like a lot of other things that people have fetishes for, but fire is so far and beyond all else that most everything else is mildly arousing at best.
Thanks for taking me seriously, most people think I'm a troll or I'm full of crap, and it's frustrating as all hell when it's nearly impossible to have a conversation like this about it, it feels good to talk about, as I end up learning a lot about myself in doing so, thank you.
Feel free to ask whatever you want, I'll answer as best I can.
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I'm taking some time to process/think about the things you just said... its also stirred up some interesting self-insights. Part of me really understands it, and thats surprising me. I'm also finding some interesting parallels. Fear, especially extreme fear is also a transcendental experience for me.
The odd thing is that when it comes to my own fetish, I'm not so much watching men in a voyeuristic way, as I am intensely empathising with them. I'm actually feeling the fear with them (complete with some very intense physical reactions).
The reason I watch men in fear instead of just directly experiencing fear myself is because I feel one step further removed from 'God' as a female (thanks to religious brain-washing as a child). I no longer seriously believe that (nor believe in a biblical God anymore), but shame sticks.
Men just seem to me to be purer, more 'divine' creatures (however irrational I know that is), and so by empathising with their terror, I reach greater levels of transcendance (it bypasses the feelings of female 'unworthiness').
I definitely want to hear more from you, as soon as I finish processing. :)