lol, funny. I learned what a hipster was by asking someone on this very site. I still don't really understand why it's seen as a derogatory thing. I mean, I vaguely understand, but I just wonder why people care so much.
I think it's mostly the pretentiousness - the trying to be alternative but in an acceptable (ironically mainstream) way that seems disingenuous. You could call this bandwagoning. Nothing cool about trying hard to be cool.
I have to admit, someone pretending to like something just because it's seen as cool is worthy of our disrespect. But how do we differentiate them from people who do genuinely like stuff that isn't mainstream? I love French cinema and I've had crap thrown at me because of it. I'm pretentious, divisive, and choose to like things just because others don't (apparently). But I really really do like it. It appeals to me. I wish I could explain the appeal to others but any attempt to do so is an attempt to somehow prove myself "better". It isn't, though. I just found something I really like and want to share it with the people I care about so we can discuss it. It hurts that people dismiss it and dismiss me for liking it.
To get back to the original point, if I was pretending to like it just to get all haughty, then I deserve my kicking. But what if I actually like it? As I kind of do. In fact, I absolutely love it.
Hey I like cinema from all over the world - Spain, Germany, Italy, France, S. Korea, Japan, Iran, Australia etc.. I like movies from 80 years ago. Some films I love are definitely up on a hipster's '100 films to see before you die or like... totally get bored of living' list.
It's not clear cut. There will be people who are unfairly labeled a hipster, then there are people that should be labeled a hipster who fly under the radar. But generally those that are trying hard to encapsulate alternative cool with every inch of their behaviour are noticeable. It won't just be their taste in movies, it'll be everything; the way they dress, talk, act, what they eat and drink, what they listen to... They live in a subcultural bubble of superficiality and pretension.
You might be able to tell hipsters are a personal gripe of mine, but that's mainly because I'm surrounded by them all the time due to studying at an Arts university. The repetition and blandness of it wares on me.
Yeah, I have to admit it doesn't wind me up as much as make me roll my eyes at them. Actually, part of me pities them. If they're hanging onto the coat-tails of anything which is seen as cool, how are they even understanding or enjoying all of it? That's such a sad way to live your life.
I like some truly embarrassingly bad things and I like some things that are so avant-garde that I'd be equally insulted for mentioning them. The only things they got in common is that I like them and they mean something to me. You sound pretty much the same.
Actually, when you describe hipsterism as a bubble within which all things are chosen for a certain value, it does begin to sound quite annoying.
P.S. I lied. I've just realised there are two English-language horror films I quite like. Wolf Creek was pretty good too. But yeah, Funny Games is just brilliant. Especially Michael Pitt. I'm trying not to introduce spoilers but the sheer throwaway casualness of the final murder still haunts me.
You know, it's like that with me and foreign horror movies. I feel scrutiny enough because I love horror movies as much as I do, but when I throw in 'foreign', people think I'm trying too hard. I didn't realize sitting on my ass, cuddling my cats, eating a pbj, scratching my butt, and farting, all while watching these films in the privacy of my own home, meant I was trying to look cool. I like a lot of things that aren't mainstream, but that's an example.
I guess I'll go watch another Johnny Depp movie, even though I genuinely don't care to, so people won't think I'm trying to prove my coolness by being 'unique'. I swear it's a sin not to find that guy attractive.
I'm gonna go get sn exorcism performed on me til he's hot.
At the risk of sounding hipsterish, I generally don't like horror movies. The only ones I do like are foreign ones. Asian zombie and vampire films (especially the ones with a sense of humour) enthrall me. They're not technically horror because they're so funny.
The only English-language horror film I can think of that both scares me and enlightens me is a film called Funny Games. It's intelligent, uncomfortable, disturbing, plays with the medium, breaks down the fourth wall, and also has a message. It's also, I later found out, a frame by frame reshoot of a foreign horror movie. :)
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lol, funny. I learned what a hipster was by asking someone on this very site. I still don't really understand why it's seen as a derogatory thing. I mean, I vaguely understand, but I just wonder why people care so much.
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Yeah. I really do not see what is so bad about hipsters?
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I think it's mostly the pretentiousness - the trying to be alternative but in an acceptable (ironically mainstream) way that seems disingenuous. You could call this bandwagoning. Nothing cool about trying hard to be cool.
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I have to admit, someone pretending to like something just because it's seen as cool is worthy of our disrespect. But how do we differentiate them from people who do genuinely like stuff that isn't mainstream? I love French cinema and I've had crap thrown at me because of it. I'm pretentious, divisive, and choose to like things just because others don't (apparently). But I really really do like it. It appeals to me. I wish I could explain the appeal to others but any attempt to do so is an attempt to somehow prove myself "better". It isn't, though. I just found something I really like and want to share it with the people I care about so we can discuss it. It hurts that people dismiss it and dismiss me for liking it.
To get back to the original point, if I was pretending to like it just to get all haughty, then I deserve my kicking. But what if I actually like it? As I kind of do. In fact, I absolutely love it.
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Hey I like cinema from all over the world - Spain, Germany, Italy, France, S. Korea, Japan, Iran, Australia etc.. I like movies from 80 years ago. Some films I love are definitely up on a hipster's '100 films to see before you die or like... totally get bored of living' list.
It's not clear cut. There will be people who are unfairly labeled a hipster, then there are people that should be labeled a hipster who fly under the radar. But generally those that are trying hard to encapsulate alternative cool with every inch of their behaviour are noticeable. It won't just be their taste in movies, it'll be everything; the way they dress, talk, act, what they eat and drink, what they listen to... They live in a subcultural bubble of superficiality and pretension.
You might be able to tell hipsters are a personal gripe of mine, but that's mainly because I'm surrounded by them all the time due to studying at an Arts university. The repetition and blandness of it wares on me.
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Yeah, I have to admit it doesn't wind me up as much as make me roll my eyes at them. Actually, part of me pities them. If they're hanging onto the coat-tails of anything which is seen as cool, how are they even understanding or enjoying all of it? That's such a sad way to live your life.
I like some truly embarrassingly bad things and I like some things that are so avant-garde that I'd be equally insulted for mentioning them. The only things they got in common is that I like them and they mean something to me. You sound pretty much the same.
Actually, when you describe hipsterism as a bubble within which all things are chosen for a certain value, it does begin to sound quite annoying.
P.S. I lied. I've just realised there are two English-language horror films I quite like. Wolf Creek was pretty good too. But yeah, Funny Games is just brilliant. Especially Michael Pitt. I'm trying not to introduce spoilers but the sheer throwaway casualness of the final murder still haunts me.
You know, it's like that with me and foreign horror movies. I feel scrutiny enough because I love horror movies as much as I do, but when I throw in 'foreign', people think I'm trying too hard. I didn't realize sitting on my ass, cuddling my cats, eating a pbj, scratching my butt, and farting, all while watching these films in the privacy of my own home, meant I was trying to look cool. I like a lot of things that aren't mainstream, but that's an example.
I guess I'll go watch another Johnny Depp movie, even though I genuinely don't care to, so people won't think I'm trying to prove my coolness by being 'unique'. I swear it's a sin not to find that guy attractive.
I'm gonna go get sn exorcism performed on me til he's hot.
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At the risk of sounding hipsterish, I generally don't like horror movies. The only ones I do like are foreign ones. Asian zombie and vampire films (especially the ones with a sense of humour) enthrall me. They're not technically horror because they're so funny.
The only English-language horror film I can think of that both scares me and enlightens me is a film called Funny Games. It's intelligent, uncomfortable, disturbing, plays with the medium, breaks down the fourth wall, and also has a message. It's also, I later found out, a frame by frame reshoot of a foreign horror movie. :)
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I don't really know what a hipster is supposed to sound like, but if you're happy with me, I'm happy with you.
I'll have to check out that movie. TY.
Yeah I love Funny Games. I've only seen the remake as well, not the Austrian original (I may have to see how it compares). Michael Pitt is brilliant.
It's all about pretension and perceived pretension.