I'm more into spirituality and meditation and things like that, I can actually see how religious people like praying for example, I think prayer and meditation are very similar things, it's just with prayer you think the answers are coming externally and meditation the answers come internally. Even how prayers are done holding your hands, I'm sure there's a mudra for that pose
To me though it almost seems like a cop out to be religious for specific answers, unless it's more like you're religious for the bonding and philosophy
But some of my hang ups on being religious myself, well the biggest thing I can think of is how easy it would be a couple thousand years ago to kill someone publicly and then let him "rise from the grave" just to give your organization more credibility and influence
I have a pretty big suspicion religion could have just been a tool for those in power to maintain that power and keep society in line. Culturally speaking I think religions are interesting, Greco Roman mythology for one, or Egyptian gods. But Christianity for example started because what, someone *happened* to find ten commandments on a stone when speaking to God? Because at a time people could easily be tricked a murdered man came back to life? I mean a whole bible was written out of someone's head more or less and that was totally acceptable to wholly believe in but someone like Joan of Arc was murdered for acting as an agent of God when she kicked ass for the French? Just seems full of conveniences
But I never know how someone uses their religion or anything like that, I'm not bigoted to anyone over that. I do look out for things like Sunday Christians, but I never think anything like "you're religious so you're mentally interior"
People don't get that you can believe that something that people call "God" exists without subscribing to a poisioned Ideology. Religious texts are written by people and Mythology in general is just what you're saying, its a way for people to maintain power. Kings ruled because God gave them the divine right to profit from the labor of other people. Peasants slaved in fields for little money and poor living conditions because they believed they'd be rewarded for it later.
I can't really think of anything less likely than the Big Bang creating the whole universe. Everything exploding out of nothing for no reason is as credible as any religious creation story. Science has turned into its own religion, stuff like evolution and the Big Bang ARE religious beliefs and not science, because you cant prove them through experimenting.
I think it comes back to the original point where people in positions of power have to tell you they know the entire machinations of all of creation. That's how cults work. "Everyone else has it wrong, so listen to me because I know better" The people running the world are using the same manipulation tactics theyve been using for thousands of years.
That's why I'm agnostic. Logically there is a "God" out there. Whether it's a benevolent entity that wishes good will for humanity or a entity that has unfathomable comprehension above us remains to be discussed. God is whatever was the first thing in exsistance or created existence in the first place. Why do we exist has been the golden question that every human since the dawn of thought has thought of at one point.
Exsistance is both subjective and fact, distinguishing the two is neigh impossible. Why is there a universe with things (matter) and not things (antimatter). Isnt it simpler for there to be nothing? Why is there something when nothing should, could or would exsist? Does that lead credence to the possibility we a created beings? If not literally (Adam and Eve) then at least from the first strains of atoms to be shat out by the big bang?
Deconstructing the entire essence of reality is going to take far, far longer than I'm going to live for. So im just crossing my fingers theres a reality that exists for me after I die.
Christianity did bring out the best of western thinking. It also brought out the worst but that was ironed out over the course of the last few centuries. If there isnt a God and I just cease to exist I just hope my kids will have a good time on this world like I have. Which should be the goal we all share. And no that does not mean I support throwing coal away and making everyone drive a Tesla. Just means the kids of the future will have to think their way out of the older generations mess. Which has been done for hundreds of generations so I'm not feeling bad about leaving this world behind.
See this is the type of personality/character I can respect. If you're kind to everyone and you're a good person, even if we don't think the same things theologically speaking, I have no beef with you.
IIN that I feel like religious people have a strong dislike for Atheists?
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I personally think both sides have their dogma
I'm more into spirituality and meditation and things like that, I can actually see how religious people like praying for example, I think prayer and meditation are very similar things, it's just with prayer you think the answers are coming externally and meditation the answers come internally. Even how prayers are done holding your hands, I'm sure there's a mudra for that pose
To me though it almost seems like a cop out to be religious for specific answers, unless it's more like you're religious for the bonding and philosophy
But some of my hang ups on being religious myself, well the biggest thing I can think of is how easy it would be a couple thousand years ago to kill someone publicly and then let him "rise from the grave" just to give your organization more credibility and influence
I have a pretty big suspicion religion could have just been a tool for those in power to maintain that power and keep society in line. Culturally speaking I think religions are interesting, Greco Roman mythology for one, or Egyptian gods. But Christianity for example started because what, someone *happened* to find ten commandments on a stone when speaking to God? Because at a time people could easily be tricked a murdered man came back to life? I mean a whole bible was written out of someone's head more or less and that was totally acceptable to wholly believe in but someone like Joan of Arc was murdered for acting as an agent of God when she kicked ass for the French? Just seems full of conveniences
But I never know how someone uses their religion or anything like that, I'm not bigoted to anyone over that. I do look out for things like Sunday Christians, but I never think anything like "you're religious so you're mentally interior"
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People don't get that you can believe that something that people call "God" exists without subscribing to a poisioned Ideology. Religious texts are written by people and Mythology in general is just what you're saying, its a way for people to maintain power. Kings ruled because God gave them the divine right to profit from the labor of other people. Peasants slaved in fields for little money and poor living conditions because they believed they'd be rewarded for it later.
I can't really think of anything less likely than the Big Bang creating the whole universe. Everything exploding out of nothing for no reason is as credible as any religious creation story. Science has turned into its own religion, stuff like evolution and the Big Bang ARE religious beliefs and not science, because you cant prove them through experimenting.
I think it comes back to the original point where people in positions of power have to tell you they know the entire machinations of all of creation. That's how cults work. "Everyone else has it wrong, so listen to me because I know better" The people running the world are using the same manipulation tactics theyve been using for thousands of years.
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That's why I'm agnostic. Logically there is a "God" out there. Whether it's a benevolent entity that wishes good will for humanity or a entity that has unfathomable comprehension above us remains to be discussed. God is whatever was the first thing in exsistance or created existence in the first place. Why do we exist has been the golden question that every human since the dawn of thought has thought of at one point.
Exsistance is both subjective and fact, distinguishing the two is neigh impossible. Why is there a universe with things (matter) and not things (antimatter). Isnt it simpler for there to be nothing? Why is there something when nothing should, could or would exsist? Does that lead credence to the possibility we a created beings? If not literally (Adam and Eve) then at least from the first strains of atoms to be shat out by the big bang?
Deconstructing the entire essence of reality is going to take far, far longer than I'm going to live for. So im just crossing my fingers theres a reality that exists for me after I die.
Christianity did bring out the best of western thinking. It also brought out the worst but that was ironed out over the course of the last few centuries. If there isnt a God and I just cease to exist I just hope my kids will have a good time on this world like I have. Which should be the goal we all share. And no that does not mean I support throwing coal away and making everyone drive a Tesla. Just means the kids of the future will have to think their way out of the older generations mess. Which has been done for hundreds of generations so I'm not feeling bad about leaving this world behind.
See this is the type of personality/character I can respect. If you're kind to everyone and you're a good person, even if we don't think the same things theologically speaking, I have no beef with you.
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