Agnostic atheist is a thing, by the way. It means that you're an atheist who doesn't think that god has been proved to not exist (or that you don't believe the existence of a god can be proved or disproved). You can also be an agnostic theist (somebody who believes in a god but thinks that the existence of a god can't be proven), a gnostic atheist (somebody who believes that the absence of a god has been proven), or a gnostic theist (somebody who believes that a god exists and has been proven to exist).
Sometimes people say "agnostic" to mean that they're neutral on the existence of a god and believe it can't be proven either way, but most people I've met who said they were agnostic meant that they were agnostic atheists.
"Agnostic atheist is a thing, by the way. It means that you're an atheist who doesn't think that god has been proved to not exist (or that you don't believe the existence of a god can be proved or disproved)."
No thats just an Agnostic but explained in a stupid way.
You don't have to, it's wrong. People write all sorts of stupid shit on the net these days...that includes mixing religions into stupid contradictory bullshit.
You don't stand corrected at all. An Agnostic isn't convinced or rejecting of any belief so it's quite impossible for them to be half anything as they aren't certain of anything. I'm a real Agnostic so i would know. People have started taking to connecting beliefs in a contradictory manner these days, it's just a stupid new fad. Sort of like how five years ago no one ever called themselves an Atheist because they didn't even know what one was, until it became the new word of the day. It was used on family guy and then it took off, it's true!
I don't know much about theology as I was raised baptist and figure it's all shit and not worth wasting any more of my time over. I took the Vtrees comment to be a way to differentiate between an agnostic who believes and an agnostic who doesn't.
I'm agnostic in that I don't believe it can be proven and I'm not silly enough to jump to a conclusion without the facts.
I like the idea of fractals. That our solar system is but an atom in a larger scale of being we refer to as god. The Simpsons had an opening sequence that described it better than I can.
"agnostic who believes and an agnostic who doesn't."
Thats my point right there, an angnostic can't be either of those things.
Example, person who believes in god = religious
person who does not believe in god = Atheist
Person who has no opinion on either subject due to the understanding that they CAN'T know = Agnostic.
So it's impossible to be an Atheist and Agnostic at the same time because Atheists have a set opinion. The terms directly contradict themselves so much it's crazy.
IIN that I don't want to tell my family that I'm atheist/agnostic?
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You should decide if you are atheist or agnostic before you break the news.
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Agnostic atheist is a thing, by the way. It means that you're an atheist who doesn't think that god has been proved to not exist (or that you don't believe the existence of a god can be proved or disproved). You can also be an agnostic theist (somebody who believes in a god but thinks that the existence of a god can't be proven), a gnostic atheist (somebody who believes that the absence of a god has been proven), or a gnostic theist (somebody who believes that a god exists and has been proven to exist).
Sometimes people say "agnostic" to mean that they're neutral on the existence of a god and believe it can't be proven either way, but most people I've met who said they were agnostic meant that they were agnostic atheists.
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"Agnostic atheist is a thing, by the way. It means that you're an atheist who doesn't think that god has been proved to not exist (or that you don't believe the existence of a god can be proved or disproved)."
No thats just an Agnostic but explained in a stupid way.
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You don't have to, it's wrong. People write all sorts of stupid shit on the net these days...that includes mixing religions into stupid contradictory bullshit.
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But I thought stupid contradictory bullshit was the foundation for religion.
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Bazzziiiinnngggg!!!!!!!!!
I stand corrected, and I learned something. Thank you. Apologies to the OP.
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You don't stand corrected at all. An Agnostic isn't convinced or rejecting of any belief so it's quite impossible for them to be half anything as they aren't certain of anything. I'm a real Agnostic so i would know. People have started taking to connecting beliefs in a contradictory manner these days, it's just a stupid new fad. Sort of like how five years ago no one ever called themselves an Atheist because they didn't even know what one was, until it became the new word of the day. It was used on family guy and then it took off, it's true!
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I don't know much about theology as I was raised baptist and figure it's all shit and not worth wasting any more of my time over. I took the Vtrees comment to be a way to differentiate between an agnostic who believes and an agnostic who doesn't.
I'm agnostic in that I don't believe it can be proven and I'm not silly enough to jump to a conclusion without the facts.
I like the idea of fractals. That our solar system is but an atom in a larger scale of being we refer to as god. The Simpsons had an opening sequence that described it better than I can.
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"agnostic who believes and an agnostic who doesn't."
Thats my point right there, an angnostic can't be either of those things.
Example, person who believes in god = religious
person who does not believe in god = Atheist
Person who has no opinion on either subject due to the understanding that they CAN'T know = Agnostic.
So it's impossible to be an Atheist and Agnostic at the same time because Atheists have a set opinion. The terms directly contradict themselves so much it's crazy.
No problem! Thanks for listening.