If they believe abortion is murder it takes precedence over unintentional carelessness. I would have thought that was kind of obvious. We all have certain values we would try to uphold despite any challenging circumstances, otherwise they're not really values to begin with.
Consentual sex is elected unless the female was raped. Then it was not consentual sex. Challenging circumstances would be if the female was raped. Then she is a victim of circumstance. But she made the conscious decision to have unprotected sex. Where was her value for life when she was having unprotected sex whilst knowing the risks involved with such a practice?
The OP used the terms unintentionally and carelessness (twice) so I answered given the scenario available. If what you more directly meant was just unprotected sex, then fine, but my answer doesn't really change all that much.
I don't see why abortion must be the single choice for someone who does fall pregnant in this situation, pro-choice implying the *choice* therein. Everyone takes certain risks, and everyone makes poor decisions at times, I know I do. I'm not comfortable pointing fingers demanding someone do something they are completely uncomfortable with just because they fucked up.
That's fine.
But my question was not whether abortion is right or wrong. My though is more along the lines of, why do women use the "sanctity of life" argument as to why they'd rather not get an abortion but the sanctity of life did not matter enough for them to take precautions?
I'm not saying that nobody makes mistakes, but having consentual sex that was unprotected knowing the consequences and not bother to even splurge for a Plan B pill sounds more like carelessness than making a mistake to me.
I guess I wasn't intending to discuss the rightness or wrongness of abortion, what I was trying to point out was even if someone makes a certain poor decision, I don't feel they should have to make the same decision that someone else would. For some people having an abortion just isn't an option, no matter how stupid or careless or poorly thought out their decision was, and no matter how often they repeat it.
I understand what you're getting at with taking responsibility beforehand, and I agree to a large extent, but sometimes life just doesn't work out like that and people have values that even if they took risks knowing what might happen. If a woman never wants to have an abortion, that's fine by me, even if she makes a poor decision, even if she repeatedly makes them, if it's something she just cannot do, then she does have other choices she can make. If she complains about it, well stiff shit, unless she was a dribbling moron she knew the consequences beforehand.
IIN that I don't understand this logic to not get an abortion...
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If they believe abortion is murder it takes precedence over unintentional carelessness. I would have thought that was kind of obvious. We all have certain values we would try to uphold despite any challenging circumstances, otherwise they're not really values to begin with.
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But you are missing my point.
Consentual sex is elected unless the female was raped. Then it was not consentual sex. Challenging circumstances would be if the female was raped. Then she is a victim of circumstance. But she made the conscious decision to have unprotected sex. Where was her value for life when she was having unprotected sex whilst knowing the risks involved with such a practice?
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The OP used the terms unintentionally and carelessness (twice) so I answered given the scenario available. If what you more directly meant was just unprotected sex, then fine, but my answer doesn't really change all that much.
I don't see why abortion must be the single choice for someone who does fall pregnant in this situation, pro-choice implying the *choice* therein. Everyone takes certain risks, and everyone makes poor decisions at times, I know I do. I'm not comfortable pointing fingers demanding someone do something they are completely uncomfortable with just because they fucked up.
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That's fine.
But my question was not whether abortion is right or wrong. My though is more along the lines of, why do women use the "sanctity of life" argument as to why they'd rather not get an abortion but the sanctity of life did not matter enough for them to take precautions?
I'm not saying that nobody makes mistakes, but having consentual sex that was unprotected knowing the consequences and not bother to even splurge for a Plan B pill sounds more like carelessness than making a mistake to me.
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I guess I wasn't intending to discuss the rightness or wrongness of abortion, what I was trying to point out was even if someone makes a certain poor decision, I don't feel they should have to make the same decision that someone else would. For some people having an abortion just isn't an option, no matter how stupid or careless or poorly thought out their decision was, and no matter how often they repeat it.
I understand what you're getting at with taking responsibility beforehand, and I agree to a large extent, but sometimes life just doesn't work out like that and people have values that even if they took risks knowing what might happen. If a woman never wants to have an abortion, that's fine by me, even if she makes a poor decision, even if she repeatedly makes them, if it's something she just cannot do, then she does have other choices she can make. If she complains about it, well stiff shit, unless she was a dribbling moron she knew the consequences beforehand.