Why is it always the women who get's the blame regarding pregnancy. Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong or been living on an other planet but I think men play their part as well. x
Simple. It's "their" body. Although, you strike me as the person that is not willing to expect women to hold responsibility to their bodies.
If this excuse is allowed: "It's my body, so I get 100% choice"
Then this reason should be allowed "It's your body, so you get 100% responsibility".
As long as the reason for women having 100% choice in pregnancy is that it's "her body", then there is absolutely no reason for the "it's your body, your responsibility" reason to be added.
Just for an example.
A restaurant. If you are allergic to something on the menu, is it the cook's responsibility to make sure you don't pick what it is you are allergic to, or is it yours?
Basically, it is your body. Pregnancy is something that happens to women. If they don't want to fall pregnant and take responsibility, then it is their fault if they do.
The cook in the example is the man, and the customer the female.
Pregnancy, in this example, is the allergic health issue.
The food being the sex.
The customer is responsible for what happens to her body.
The woman is responsible for what happens to her body.
If the customer goes to the restaurant, they are opening themselves for the chance of having an allergic reaction, the cook is not at risk.
If the woman engages in sex, she opens the chance of falling pregnant. The male is not at risk.
The customer chooses what she wants, to make sure that their body is not at risk of certain ingredients that will trigger an allergic reaction.
The woman chooses to engage in sex with protection, she has full choice. If she doesn't want to fall pregnant, and the man refuses to wear protection, yet she continues, she is accepting the risks of "her" body. She then runs a strong chance of falling pregnant.
If the customer chooses something that could have the ingredients she is allergic to, is it the cook's fault for not making sure their body is not at risk, or is it the customers?
If the female chooses to not use protection, or refuse the person not using any, is it the man's fault for not making sure her body is not at risk of pregnancy?
This is one of the reasons why I find the male gender superior, we don't expect women to look after our bodies. We are not dependent on others to look after our bodies.
Yes, men play their part, only if the female allowed them to. If she doesn't tell him to wear protection, it is her body that can suffer. She could of refused non-safe sex, and he couldn't continue until he wore protection. She is the one that is supposed to look after her body, not the man. If she doesn't take the precautions to prevent pregnancy, then that is her fault. All it took was to say no or use protection.
I have found words now, knew they wouldn't fail me for long. How dare you have the audacity to comment on what type of a person I strike you as. You don't even know me. but then seeing as we are playing judge and jury to each other. I will say my little piece as well you strike me as the type of person who posts things to get a reaction, and here's me foolishly giving you exactly what you want.
Oh yeah as for saying a women can say no or insist on him wearing protection and it pains me to say this but ur right, but can't a man say no as well and insist on protection. How about some balance here.
Oh, my apologies, princess. How dare someone have the "audacity" to judge you, when you are judging people as sexist. How dare someone not stick to the princess double standard you have of "I can judge you, but how dare you judge me". Get over yourself. I can judge whoever I want, whenever I want, just as you are free to do the same with me, which you have done, numerous times now.
I don't need to know you personally to know how you would react in a certain topic. You have communicated with me, and I have seen you comment on here enough to base my opinion on you.
You are free to judge me all you want, and just like my judgements, they can be right or wrong. yours, undoubtably, is wrong. As a matter of fact, I have stopped commenting and replying to users in general on here as much as I used to. Most reactions nowadays on here make me think "why bother", and don't reply, not "Oh, goody, someone replied to me."
If you are going to judge me, do it correctly.
yes, sometimes I see reaction, but not a reaction for the sake of reaction, but reaction in the sake of rational debate, which has, like I already implied, has let me down, and so I don't engage as much as I used to.
As a matter of fact, you have given me the opposite of what I want, yet everything I expected. I wanted you to reply to my example, and prove me wrong if you could. What I got? An emotional filled response simply because you lack the rationality to respond to the actual example, implying I'm wrong and sexist for it simply because you don't like what you hear, not because it is wrong, and if it is because I am wrong, explain why I am wrong.
Do you think I "want" this type of reaction from people? I spend time trying to make a rational point, making an example, going through every step of the example so it is easier to understand and see where I am coming from, just to, yet again, have a female get emotional over it simply because they can't reply to why I am wrong.
Yes, I totally waste my time trying to explain everything in depth just for reactions like yours. You are so right. I completely go in to depth rationally to why I am right just for someone, you in this example, to react with emotional drivle that does not answer the actual reply at all to what they were replying to. Yes, I seek such reactions. -Sigh-
You judged me, you judged wrong. Feel free to try again.
So hold on. You just sat there and said I was sexist, then say I am right. Were is the rationality there?
The simple difference is that it's "her" body that goes the changes, and so "she" should look after "her" body. Like I said, you are implying that women are unable to look after their bodies by themselves and need the help of men to look after their bodies, and how can anyone say the female gender is equal to the male gender when you think things like that?
Like the example explained:
It is in the customer's control to take the risks of ordering something that may have the chance of having what they are alregic to in their food, not the cooks. The customer is in control of it, if she orders it, she suffers the concequences of her bodyily health.
It is in the female's control to take the risks of engaging in something (sex) that may have the chance of "her" body going through changes, not the male's. She's in control of it, if she wants to engage in non-safe sex, then she suffers the concequences of her bodily health.
Until males have just as much choice as females, females deserve to take full responsibility of their bodies.
Like said before, you can't use the excuse "it's my body, so I get 100% choice", yet think the reason "It's your body, so it's 100% your responsibility".
You can't have your cake and eat it, too.
I am not looking for an emotional response, I want a rational one that stays on topic. I don't care for your feelings anymore than I expect you to care for mine, I care about the topic, so save the emotional response, state the parts you dissagree with, then explain why you dissagree with them and why they are wrong. If you are unable to do those things, then what is the point in replying to me?
Well seeing as in ur view if a women gets pregant then it is her job to 100% protect herself and the man takes little of no responsibility, if it was the other way around and men got pregnant and carried the babies would it be their (men's) responsibility to 100% protect themselves. Absolutly there's no argument that we are all responsibility and need to take ownership for our own bodies. Just because I said that you were right (about women taking responsibility for their bodies) that does not mean that I think my views opinions and thoughts are wrong just as you believe in ur thoughts and opinions. I obviously chose my user name because I believe in what I say. I suppose it's healthy and natural to disagree on things (sometimes)though as if we all had the same view on life the world wouldn't turn and it would certainly be a boring world.
Is it normal that i desire to have a baby boy at 19?
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I like how you missed out the part at the end when the guy also wants a child. Plan on falling pregnant without his choice as well?
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Why is it always the women who get's the blame regarding pregnancy. Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong or been living on an other planet but I think men play their part as well. x
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Simple. It's "their" body. Although, you strike me as the person that is not willing to expect women to hold responsibility to their bodies.
If this excuse is allowed: "It's my body, so I get 100% choice"
Then this reason should be allowed "It's your body, so you get 100% responsibility".
As long as the reason for women having 100% choice in pregnancy is that it's "her body", then there is absolutely no reason for the "it's your body, your responsibility" reason to be added.
Just for an example.
A restaurant. If you are allergic to something on the menu, is it the cook's responsibility to make sure you don't pick what it is you are allergic to, or is it yours?
Basically, it is your body. Pregnancy is something that happens to women. If they don't want to fall pregnant and take responsibility, then it is their fault if they do.
The cook in the example is the man, and the customer the female.
Pregnancy, in this example, is the allergic health issue.
The food being the sex.
The customer is responsible for what happens to her body.
The woman is responsible for what happens to her body.
If the customer goes to the restaurant, they are opening themselves for the chance of having an allergic reaction, the cook is not at risk.
If the woman engages in sex, she opens the chance of falling pregnant. The male is not at risk.
The customer chooses what she wants, to make sure that their body is not at risk of certain ingredients that will trigger an allergic reaction.
The woman chooses to engage in sex with protection, she has full choice. If she doesn't want to fall pregnant, and the man refuses to wear protection, yet she continues, she is accepting the risks of "her" body. She then runs a strong chance of falling pregnant.
If the customer chooses something that could have the ingredients she is allergic to, is it the cook's fault for not making sure their body is not at risk, or is it the customers?
If the female chooses to not use protection, or refuse the person not using any, is it the man's fault for not making sure her body is not at risk of pregnancy?
This is one of the reasons why I find the male gender superior, we don't expect women to look after our bodies. We are not dependent on others to look after our bodies.
Yes, men play their part, only if the female allowed them to. If she doesn't tell him to wear protection, it is her body that can suffer. She could of refused non-safe sex, and he couldn't continue until he wore protection. She is the one that is supposed to look after her body, not the man. If she doesn't take the precautions to prevent pregnancy, then that is her fault. All it took was to say no or use protection.
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Wow! u really are sexist aren't u. For the first time in my 30+ years of life words fail me.
I have found words now, knew they wouldn't fail me for long. How dare you have the audacity to comment on what type of a person I strike you as. You don't even know me. but then seeing as we are playing judge and jury to each other. I will say my little piece as well you strike me as the type of person who posts things to get a reaction, and here's me foolishly giving you exactly what you want.
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Oh yeah as for saying a women can say no or insist on him wearing protection and it pains me to say this but ur right, but can't a man say no as well and insist on protection. How about some balance here.
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Oh, my apologies, princess. How dare someone have the "audacity" to judge you, when you are judging people as sexist. How dare someone not stick to the princess double standard you have of "I can judge you, but how dare you judge me". Get over yourself. I can judge whoever I want, whenever I want, just as you are free to do the same with me, which you have done, numerous times now.
I don't need to know you personally to know how you would react in a certain topic. You have communicated with me, and I have seen you comment on here enough to base my opinion on you.
You are free to judge me all you want, and just like my judgements, they can be right or wrong. yours, undoubtably, is wrong. As a matter of fact, I have stopped commenting and replying to users in general on here as much as I used to. Most reactions nowadays on here make me think "why bother", and don't reply, not "Oh, goody, someone replied to me."
If you are going to judge me, do it correctly.
yes, sometimes I see reaction, but not a reaction for the sake of reaction, but reaction in the sake of rational debate, which has, like I already implied, has let me down, and so I don't engage as much as I used to.
As a matter of fact, you have given me the opposite of what I want, yet everything I expected. I wanted you to reply to my example, and prove me wrong if you could. What I got? An emotional filled response simply because you lack the rationality to respond to the actual example, implying I'm wrong and sexist for it simply because you don't like what you hear, not because it is wrong, and if it is because I am wrong, explain why I am wrong.
Do you think I "want" this type of reaction from people? I spend time trying to make a rational point, making an example, going through every step of the example so it is easier to understand and see where I am coming from, just to, yet again, have a female get emotional over it simply because they can't reply to why I am wrong.
Yes, I totally waste my time trying to explain everything in depth just for reactions like yours. You are so right. I completely go in to depth rationally to why I am right just for someone, you in this example, to react with emotional drivle that does not answer the actual reply at all to what they were replying to. Yes, I seek such reactions. -Sigh-
You judged me, you judged wrong. Feel free to try again.
So hold on. You just sat there and said I was sexist, then say I am right. Were is the rationality there?
The simple difference is that it's "her" body that goes the changes, and so "she" should look after "her" body. Like I said, you are implying that women are unable to look after their bodies by themselves and need the help of men to look after their bodies, and how can anyone say the female gender is equal to the male gender when you think things like that?
Like the example explained:
It is in the customer's control to take the risks of ordering something that may have the chance of having what they are alregic to in their food, not the cooks. The customer is in control of it, if she orders it, she suffers the concequences of her bodyily health.
It is in the female's control to take the risks of engaging in something (sex) that may have the chance of "her" body going through changes, not the male's. She's in control of it, if she wants to engage in non-safe sex, then she suffers the concequences of her bodily health.
Until males have just as much choice as females, females deserve to take full responsibility of their bodies.
Like said before, you can't use the excuse "it's my body, so I get 100% choice", yet think the reason "It's your body, so it's 100% your responsibility".
You can't have your cake and eat it, too.
I am not looking for an emotional response, I want a rational one that stays on topic. I don't care for your feelings anymore than I expect you to care for mine, I care about the topic, so save the emotional response, state the parts you dissagree with, then explain why you dissagree with them and why they are wrong. If you are unable to do those things, then what is the point in replying to me?
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Well seeing as in ur view if a women gets pregant then it is her job to 100% protect herself and the man takes little of no responsibility, if it was the other way around and men got pregnant and carried the babies would it be their (men's) responsibility to 100% protect themselves. Absolutly there's no argument that we are all responsibility and need to take ownership for our own bodies. Just because I said that you were right (about women taking responsibility for their bodies) that does not mean that I think my views opinions and thoughts are wrong just as you believe in ur thoughts and opinions. I obviously chose my user name because I believe in what I say. I suppose it's healthy and natural to disagree on things (sometimes)though as if we all had the same view on life the world wouldn't turn and it would certainly be a boring world.