Encouraging celibacy is the one that’s toxic for young women more than young men. It causes them to internalize thoughts that are terrible and can last a lifetime, even when they start having sex. It’s the opposite that’s more toxic for men, the idea that they need to have sex.
Well it depends what influencing that individual. If your raised religious there's a pressure not to, if your not raised religious and you hang out with the wrong people you can be encouraged to much to have sex. I never said it couldn't go the other way.
I completely agree with you. Celibacy is psychologically very dangerous. Promiscuity is also unhealthy. Religion often damages people for decades by inhibiting their ability to handle a toxic superego, and by subverting logical reasoning with rediculous cognitive biases.
Well shoot McBean you and I are on a roll aren't we?
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Can you clarify how being promiscuous is 'unhealthy'? I'm not sure if I agree with that blanket statement. I think it CAN have really adverse affects on on people but not always. There are too many other factors and it can be done just fine, however it's easy to go off the rails so I see where your coming from.
It turns out that promiscuity doesn't make people happier. One high quality partner is better than many low quality partners. Here's a link to learn more:
It turns out, just finding an article with correlation studies that agree with your point doesn't make your point correct.
Correlation does not equal casuation buddy. If there's any CAUSATIVE evidence I'll see that. I think it makes perfect sense that polygamy correlates with people being less happy because it's the glass half empty types that pursue polygamy a lot of times anyways. Also happiness is subjective and our society has normalized monogamy enough to where a lot of people never even give polygamy a serious look. Their perception is that they want monogamy to be as good as it gets because in a lot of ways and for most people monogamy is easier. I'm not saying polygamy is better at all, I think it's for the minority really.
If an 18 year old someone asked me if they should try polygamy, I WOULD SAY NO. But monogamy doesn't really suit some people and those same people would be better off with polygamy. Those are the types of people who struggle with deep emotions and fidelity which would likely make a disaster of any relationship they were in. It's better of for them to not bother sometimes, especially when their younger and their sex drive is up.
Is it normal that i cite religion for being a virgin?
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Encouraging celibacy is the one that’s toxic for young women more than young men. It causes them to internalize thoughts that are terrible and can last a lifetime, even when they start having sex. It’s the opposite that’s more toxic for men, the idea that they need to have sex.
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Well it depends what influencing that individual. If your raised religious there's a pressure not to, if your not raised religious and you hang out with the wrong people you can be encouraged to much to have sex. I never said it couldn't go the other way.
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I completely agree with you. Celibacy is psychologically very dangerous. Promiscuity is also unhealthy. Religion often damages people for decades by inhibiting their ability to handle a toxic superego, and by subverting logical reasoning with rediculous cognitive biases.
Keep your faith in logic and ethics, my friend.
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Well shoot McBean you and I are on a roll aren't we?
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Can you clarify how being promiscuous is 'unhealthy'? I'm not sure if I agree with that blanket statement. I think it CAN have really adverse affects on on people but not always. There are too many other factors and it can be done just fine, however it's easy to go off the rails so I see where your coming from.
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It turns out that promiscuity doesn't make people happier. One high quality partner is better than many low quality partners. Here's a link to learn more:
https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2010/08/promiscuity-doesn-t-make-people-happier/340249/
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It turns out, just finding an article with correlation studies that agree with your point doesn't make your point correct.
Correlation does not equal casuation buddy. If there's any CAUSATIVE evidence I'll see that. I think it makes perfect sense that polygamy correlates with people being less happy because it's the glass half empty types that pursue polygamy a lot of times anyways. Also happiness is subjective and our society has normalized monogamy enough to where a lot of people never even give polygamy a serious look. Their perception is that they want monogamy to be as good as it gets because in a lot of ways and for most people monogamy is easier. I'm not saying polygamy is better at all, I think it's for the minority really.
If an 18 year old someone asked me if they should try polygamy, I WOULD SAY NO. But monogamy doesn't really suit some people and those same people would be better off with polygamy. Those are the types of people who struggle with deep emotions and fidelity which would likely make a disaster of any relationship they were in. It's better of for them to not bother sometimes, especially when their younger and their sex drive is up.
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Having many sex partners increases one's chance of getting some STD, not to mention the drama involved.
BTW, about the time we hit 13 or 14, yes, hormones are raging like hell and we think of little more than sex. That is something we cannot "pray away".
Good news is, as we age, we gain more control over it.