Well I can't change your mind for you, but I will argue my side.
I was raised Christian and at around 14 I started having strong sexual desires that really fucked up my head. I couldn't focus on anything but wanting sex! Masterbation was merely temporary relief and my life was miserable until I got myself some real life sex and left Christianity. I think encouraged celibacy is TOXIC especially in young males. If you morally think waiting till marriage is right than I'm not sure there's much hope for you. I think waiting for marriage is fucking stupid. I just hope you have like zero sex drive or at least change your mind when your drive goes up and have some damn sex! I'm just sharing my experience and warning you. I know a lot of people have succeeded in waiting but with a higher sex drive than average you could be seriously, seriously screwed.
Encouraging celibacy is the one that’s toxic for young women more than young men. It causes them to internalize thoughts that are terrible and can last a lifetime, even when they start having sex. It’s the opposite that’s more toxic for men, the idea that they need to have sex.
Well it depends what influencing that individual. If your raised religious there's a pressure not to, if your not raised religious and you hang out with the wrong people you can be encouraged to much to have sex. I never said it couldn't go the other way.
I completely agree with you. Celibacy is psychologically very dangerous. Promiscuity is also unhealthy. Religion often damages people for decades by inhibiting their ability to handle a toxic superego, and by subverting logical reasoning with rediculous cognitive biases.
Well shoot McBean you and I are on a roll aren't we?
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Can you clarify how being promiscuous is 'unhealthy'? I'm not sure if I agree with that blanket statement. I think it CAN have really adverse affects on on people but not always. There are too many other factors and it can be done just fine, however it's easy to go off the rails so I see where your coming from.
It turns out that promiscuity doesn't make people happier. One high quality partner is better than many low quality partners. Here's a link to learn more:
It turns out, just finding an article with correlation studies that agree with your point doesn't make your point correct.
Correlation does not equal casuation buddy. If there's any CAUSATIVE evidence I'll see that. I think it makes perfect sense that polygamy correlates with people being less happy because it's the glass half empty types that pursue polygamy a lot of times anyways. Also happiness is subjective and our society has normalized monogamy enough to where a lot of people never even give polygamy a serious look. Their perception is that they want monogamy to be as good as it gets because in a lot of ways and for most people monogamy is easier. I'm not saying polygamy is better at all, I think it's for the minority really.
If an 18 year old someone asked me if they should try polygamy, I WOULD SAY NO. But monogamy doesn't really suit some people and those same people would be better off with polygamy. Those are the types of people who struggle with deep emotions and fidelity which would likely make a disaster of any relationship they were in. It's better of for them to not bother sometimes, especially when their younger and their sex drive is up.
Is it normal that i cite religion for being a virgin?
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Well I can't change your mind for you, but I will argue my side.
I was raised Christian and at around 14 I started having strong sexual desires that really fucked up my head. I couldn't focus on anything but wanting sex! Masterbation was merely temporary relief and my life was miserable until I got myself some real life sex and left Christianity. I think encouraged celibacy is TOXIC especially in young males. If you morally think waiting till marriage is right than I'm not sure there's much hope for you. I think waiting for marriage is fucking stupid. I just hope you have like zero sex drive or at least change your mind when your drive goes up and have some damn sex! I'm just sharing my experience and warning you. I know a lot of people have succeeded in waiting but with a higher sex drive than average you could be seriously, seriously screwed.
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Encouraging celibacy is the one that’s toxic for young women more than young men. It causes them to internalize thoughts that are terrible and can last a lifetime, even when they start having sex. It’s the opposite that’s more toxic for men, the idea that they need to have sex.
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Well it depends what influencing that individual. If your raised religious there's a pressure not to, if your not raised religious and you hang out with the wrong people you can be encouraged to much to have sex. I never said it couldn't go the other way.
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I completely agree with you. Celibacy is psychologically very dangerous. Promiscuity is also unhealthy. Religion often damages people for decades by inhibiting their ability to handle a toxic superego, and by subverting logical reasoning with rediculous cognitive biases.
Keep your faith in logic and ethics, my friend.
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Well shoot McBean you and I are on a roll aren't we?
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Can you clarify how being promiscuous is 'unhealthy'? I'm not sure if I agree with that blanket statement. I think it CAN have really adverse affects on on people but not always. There are too many other factors and it can be done just fine, however it's easy to go off the rails so I see where your coming from.
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It turns out that promiscuity doesn't make people happier. One high quality partner is better than many low quality partners. Here's a link to learn more:
https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2010/08/promiscuity-doesn-t-make-people-happier/340249/
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It turns out, just finding an article with correlation studies that agree with your point doesn't make your point correct.
Correlation does not equal casuation buddy. If there's any CAUSATIVE evidence I'll see that. I think it makes perfect sense that polygamy correlates with people being less happy because it's the glass half empty types that pursue polygamy a lot of times anyways. Also happiness is subjective and our society has normalized monogamy enough to where a lot of people never even give polygamy a serious look. Their perception is that they want monogamy to be as good as it gets because in a lot of ways and for most people monogamy is easier. I'm not saying polygamy is better at all, I think it's for the minority really.
If an 18 year old someone asked me if they should try polygamy, I WOULD SAY NO. But monogamy doesn't really suit some people and those same people would be better off with polygamy. Those are the types of people who struggle with deep emotions and fidelity which would likely make a disaster of any relationship they were in. It's better of for them to not bother sometimes, especially when their younger and their sex drive is up.