IIN that I agree that obesity is a disease?

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  • It's just not that simple. I've only very rarely eaten fast or processed food, never anything with HFCS, dieticians have checked my diet and found it to be fine ... but guess what, I'm still fat.

    And guess what again, most of the time I don't care, I'm sick of worrying about it. I eat very healthily, don't smoke, hardly drink alcohol and exercise daily ...

    Fat phobics can get stuffed as far as I'm concerned, I was born fat (nearly 10 pounds) and I'll probably die fat, get used to it

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    • well, I used to be the same as you. I was always the fat kid, it sucked! What really worked for me is making all my food from scratch. Organic meat is a must. Gluten free is actually important too. Gluten, AKA wheat, is kinda like a gmo but in a different way. It makes it so you're never satisfied, keep eating. All bread unless it says gluten free has wheat/gluten. GLuten free is not a fad diet. People say carbs are bad, but it's not the carbs, it's the gluten! For me this has been vital. Brown rice is a carb but it won't make you fat. If you can get organic grass fed hamburger, that is what I eat before I lift weights and it has really made a big difference. BTW watch a movie called food inc to see why you only want organic meat.

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      • Don't eat much meat anyway and organic meat is often WAY too expensive for someone on a pension. I already do make the vast majority of my food from scratch and always have.

        Isn't gluten different from wheat? Because surely it's in other grains too?

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        • well I'm not 100% sure of the technical aspect of wheat vs. gluten, i just know that wheat is bad and makes you fat. If you research a book called wheat belly, it's interesting the people that completely eliminated wheat from their diet and all the positive results from it including weight loss across the board!

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          • Yeah yeah yeah heard it all before: do you think all these people selling books aren't in it for the money? Are all the people in the book the subject of a long term scientifically based research project covering a lot of people or is all this just unverified anecdotal "evidence" from a small number of people, complete with lots of words in capital letters and lots of exclamation marks?

            I don't believe ANY food is "bad", especially not a natural one like wheat which has been eaten by humans for tens of thousands of years. OK I know it's not naturally produced these days, but it's not that long since it was grown organically as a matter of course.

            I know lots of people who eat lots of wheat products and aren't fat and vice versa: you're just being fooled by the latest dietary craze.

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            • I'm sorry but the book is not a fabricated conspiracy to make money. The wheat plant had been mutated a few hundred years ago at some point and bread this way. Before you run off half cocked assuming everything I say is a lie, you ought to have an open mind about it and you ought to look at the data.

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              • I wasn't suggesting you were lying, only probably misled. When exactly was "at some point a few hundred years ago" and what's your evidence for this statement? You're the one making the assertions, it't up to you to give references to the data, not up to me or anyone else to go looking for it, and by data I mean peer reviewed scientific research.

                "Bread" instead of bred is pretty funny, was it intentional?

                Why so touchy about my genuine questioning of your statements and reasonable request for actual evidence?

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