Just to be clear, I am not speaking to her specific medication or situation, I am speaking in general. Medications can not cause someone to gain or lose weight, but they can cause changes in the body which can have that effect. If someone is maintaining a healthy weight based on their normal eating and activity routine, and they they start taking a medication which lowers their matabalisim, they may start to gain weight doing exactly what they were doing before. There are many medications for which these types of effects are know. Insulin for example increases the amount of calories your body absorbs into the cells. These are not considered serious side effects, and medications with known side effects can and do pass FDA approval all the time.
Like I said medication by itself can't cause weight gain. Adjustments can me made, such as eating less, or increasing activity to counteract these types of effect. Everyone is capable of making the adjustments they personally need to achieve weight loss. But because some people do have different metabolism rates, take medication, or other situations that may personally effect them, the exact amount of caloric intake vs activity is not the same for everyone.
What you do to maintain your weight might seem easy or manageable for you. But someone else do do exactly what you do and gain weight. To be at your weight, they may require additional sacrifice and commitment that you don't. Because you don't require that additional effort, it is impossible for you to say that you would do it.
You are splitting hairs: if the medication causes changes in the metabolism that result in increased weight then it IS the medication which is causing it!
The fact that I'm having to defend myself repeatedly is yet another example of how fat people are demonised. I was losing weight, went on a particular medication and with no change in diet or exercise put on a lot of weight very quickly which I'm still carrying.
Around that time I faithfully kept a two month food diary and consulted a dietician who said my diet was healthy and nutritious and she couldn't see how I could change it to lose weight.
It's so easy for slim people or people who've had no problems losing weight to judge others AND I AM SICK SICK SICK OF IT
I think you completely missed the point of my post which was that even if a medication doesn't cause weight gain directly, reactions of the body to that medication can ultimately have the same effect, which is exactly what you just said. As I said in the first line, my post wasn't about you or your situation, but it was certainly supportive of your position. I was not splitting hairs, I was offering another way to look at it.
Because you offered, I will point out that if what you just said about your nutritionist is true, then the person was a moron. As I said in my post, the exact same methods do not work for everyone. Just because what they thought was correct, and might have been for many people, if you were gaining weight, it was clearly wrong for you. As such, the nutritionist should have made adjustments based on your individual situation. If they honestly felt you were eating the bear minimum, they could have recommended more activity to burn a larger number of calories.
The whole point of seeing a nutritionist is to get an individualized course of action that is right for you. If they are just going to give you a one size fits all assessment, you might as well have just bought a nutrition book instead.
By the way, I am not some skinny person judging fat people. I am carrying quite a few extra pounds myself. Though I am happy to admit I am not struggling with my weight. My current food vs activity ratios makes me happy, I don't mind at all a few extra pounds, and am very happy to stay as I am.
IIN that fat people should get compliments on social media?
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Just to be clear, I am not speaking to her specific medication or situation, I am speaking in general. Medications can not cause someone to gain or lose weight, but they can cause changes in the body which can have that effect. If someone is maintaining a healthy weight based on their normal eating and activity routine, and they they start taking a medication which lowers their matabalisim, they may start to gain weight doing exactly what they were doing before. There are many medications for which these types of effects are know. Insulin for example increases the amount of calories your body absorbs into the cells. These are not considered serious side effects, and medications with known side effects can and do pass FDA approval all the time.
Like I said medication by itself can't cause weight gain. Adjustments can me made, such as eating less, or increasing activity to counteract these types of effect. Everyone is capable of making the adjustments they personally need to achieve weight loss. But because some people do have different metabolism rates, take medication, or other situations that may personally effect them, the exact amount of caloric intake vs activity is not the same for everyone.
What you do to maintain your weight might seem easy or manageable for you. But someone else do do exactly what you do and gain weight. To be at your weight, they may require additional sacrifice and commitment that you don't. Because you don't require that additional effort, it is impossible for you to say that you would do it.
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You are splitting hairs: if the medication causes changes in the metabolism that result in increased weight then it IS the medication which is causing it!
The fact that I'm having to defend myself repeatedly is yet another example of how fat people are demonised. I was losing weight, went on a particular medication and with no change in diet or exercise put on a lot of weight very quickly which I'm still carrying.
Around that time I faithfully kept a two month food diary and consulted a dietician who said my diet was healthy and nutritious and she couldn't see how I could change it to lose weight.
It's so easy for slim people or people who've had no problems losing weight to judge others AND I AM SICK SICK SICK OF IT
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I think you completely missed the point of my post which was that even if a medication doesn't cause weight gain directly, reactions of the body to that medication can ultimately have the same effect, which is exactly what you just said. As I said in the first line, my post wasn't about you or your situation, but it was certainly supportive of your position. I was not splitting hairs, I was offering another way to look at it.
Because you offered, I will point out that if what you just said about your nutritionist is true, then the person was a moron. As I said in my post, the exact same methods do not work for everyone. Just because what they thought was correct, and might have been for many people, if you were gaining weight, it was clearly wrong for you. As such, the nutritionist should have made adjustments based on your individual situation. If they honestly felt you were eating the bear minimum, they could have recommended more activity to burn a larger number of calories.
The whole point of seeing a nutritionist is to get an individualized course of action that is right for you. If they are just going to give you a one size fits all assessment, you might as well have just bought a nutrition book instead.
By the way, I am not some skinny person judging fat people. I am carrying quite a few extra pounds myself. Though I am happy to admit I am not struggling with my weight. My current food vs activity ratios makes me happy, I don't mind at all a few extra pounds, and am very happy to stay as I am.
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She's comfortable how she is. No amount of reasoning or logic will change that.
Using the excuse of "it's my medication" or "it's genetic" is what precipitated my interjection.