Who knows what she considers groping. People embellish their stories. Maybe the guy just placed his hand on her shoulder. She's confused about the false signals she's giving men and she came on here to get advice. I think my advice is perfectly sound. It doesn't hurt to take a step back and really think about how you are interacting with others.
And of course women embellish their stories and she's giving false signals. She's not confused about what she's doing but you are. Maybe you should take a step back and really think about your misogyny
I'd like to hear from the OP on this. Not some feminist idiot. OP? Chime in on this. You already stirred up enough trouble by making this thread so the least you could do is give us some more information so we can figure this whole thing out.
Oops I wrote a comment on this but probably forgot to press the post button or something... :-O
What I wrote before is that I dislike Ellenna's comment. I doubt you are a misogynist, calling names hardly solves anything, and at least you tried to say something helpful. But of course this problem is more then just me being a people pleaser with low awareness of my body language. I am basically tired of advances from men when I work. Mind you, it happens only in my workplace, because I am obligated to be nice to customers. I am very aware of what I'm doing. But I fail to convey "this is not personal, it's my job to be nice to you"
I doubt @:buncho's_butt is a misogynist: He seems like he genuinely wants to help me, he is very respectful in his comments. IDK if morality is on your side or his, but my situation is more complicated than "men are pigs", I think. And coming here calling people names does not help me. At least Boncho made an attempt.
I consider groping any kind of physical contact without my consent, while done for the sexual pleasure of the groping party. Placing hand on shoulder can count as well if done with that intent...
P.S. I had a manager where I work give me a friendly hug (I consedered him a friend then) and then he said "I hope it felt as nice to you as it did for me". It felt horrible.
IIN men seem to misinterpret me being nice as invitation for sex
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Who knows what she considers groping. People embellish their stories. Maybe the guy just placed his hand on her shoulder. She's confused about the false signals she's giving men and she came on here to get advice. I think my advice is perfectly sound. It doesn't hurt to take a step back and really think about how you are interacting with others.
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And of course women embellish their stories and she's giving false signals. She's not confused about what she's doing but you are. Maybe you should take a step back and really think about your misogyny
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I'd like to hear from the OP on this. Not some feminist idiot. OP? Chime in on this. You already stirred up enough trouble by making this thread so the least you could do is give us some more information so we can figure this whole thing out.
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Oops I wrote a comment on this but probably forgot to press the post button or something... :-O
What I wrote before is that I dislike Ellenna's comment. I doubt you are a misogynist, calling names hardly solves anything, and at least you tried to say something helpful. But of course this problem is more then just me being a people pleaser with low awareness of my body language. I am basically tired of advances from men when I work. Mind you, it happens only in my workplace, because I am obligated to be nice to customers. I am very aware of what I'm doing. But I fail to convey "this is not personal, it's my job to be nice to you"
I doubt @:buncho's_butt is a misogynist: He seems like he genuinely wants to help me, he is very respectful in his comments. IDK if morality is on your side or his, but my situation is more complicated than "men are pigs", I think. And coming here calling people names does not help me. At least Boncho made an attempt.
I consider groping any kind of physical contact without my consent, while done for the sexual pleasure of the groping party. Placing hand on shoulder can count as well if done with that intent...
P.S. I had a manager where I work give me a friendly hug (I consedered him a friend then) and then he said "I hope it felt as nice to you as it did for me". It felt horrible.